Turks dislike Obama's selection of Joe Biden as running mate

[Angelo]

Turks dislike Obama's selection of Joe Biden as running mate

A considerable number of Turkish daily newspapers yesterday covered US Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's selection of Senator Joe Biden as a running mate, with headlines expressing displeasure at Obama's choice.

The Associated Press (AP) commented that Obama's selection of Biden was designed to blunt criticism from Republican John McCain, who was drawing virtually even in the polls by attacking the Illinois senator as an inexperienced elitist not ready for the White House.

"Biden, who is 65, was clearly chosen over lesser-known Democrats to plug holes in Obama's relatively thin resume on the national political scene and to blunt McCain's relentless attacks on his lack of experience at a time when the United States is fighting two wars.

While polls show voters are most concerned about the country's wobbly economy -- home mortgage foreclosures, high fuel costs and growing unemployment -- McCain's appeal appears to be growing out of the lingering shock to Americans' sense of security from the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks. McCain called Biden a 'wise selection.' But McCain indicated that he believed there was still plenty to criticize," AP also reported.

In Turkey, the Sunday editions of newspapers covering Obama's selection focused on Biden's policies related to Turkey and a considerable part of which are not in line with those of Ankara.

"[Obama] made 'inconsiderate' Biden his right-hand man," Hürriyet said on its front page, reminding readers of a 1999 conversation between Biden, who is close to both Greek and Armenian lobbies, and late Bülent Ecevit, then prime minister of Turkey.

"If you do not solve the Cyprus problem, then I will not approve the financial aid package of $5 billion which you expect from us, from the Congress," Biden was then reported to have told Ecevit in a bid to put pressure on the Turkish government.

Ecevit, in response, was reported to have emphasized the Turkish Cypriots' concerns and rights, while pointing out that they had reached an agreement with then-President Bill Clinton that "there will be no going back to the period before 1974 as far as safety and security are concerned."

Hürriyet said following the conversation between Biden and Ecevit, Turkish media labeled the US politician as "inconsiderate."

Biden's call two years ago to divide Iraq into autonomous regions along sectarian and ethnic lines was another factor highlighted by the Turkish media. The call completely contradicted Ankara's firm policy focusing on protection of territorial integrity and political unity of the neighboring country.

Biden proposed in a 2006 op-ed article in The New York Times that Iraq should be divided into separate Kurdish, Shiite and Sunni regions to defuse the wave of sectarian violence sweeping the country then. In the 2006 article, Biden and co-author Leslie Gelb said the proposal was aimed at maintaining "a united Iraq by decentralizing it" so that each major sectarian and ethnic group would have "room to run its own affairs." Nevertheless, Iraq has a long history as a centralized state, and concepts such as federalism and regional autonomy have proven a hard sell, as AP noted.

"Separatist partner for Obama," Star daily said in its title, referring to Biden's call for division of Iraq, while it also reminded its readers of the fact that Biden has been a keen supporter of Armenian lobby efforts at the US Congress for official recognition of the killings of Anatolian Armenians during the early 20th century as "genocide."

"Obama's right-hand man had divided Iraq into three," Yeni Şafak daily said, also referring to Biden's proposal for dividing Iraq. Milliyet, meanwhile, covered Obama's choice of Biden with a headline saying "Obama chose Greek Cypriot-Armenian lobbyists."

In first months of the 2007, following the killing of Turkish-Armenian journalist Hrant Dink in January, a sentence in a preliminary draft drawn up by Biden, chairman of Senate's Foreign Relations Committee, said, "Mr. Dink underwent prosecution under Article 301 of the Turkish Criminal Code, as he spoke about the Armenian genocide." Following an objection by Republican Richard Lugar, the sentence was changed to "Legal measures were taken about Mr. Dink, as he regarded the events that happened in 1915 as genocide."

Armenia says some 1.5 million Armenians suffered genocide at Ottoman Turkish hands, but Turkey denies systematic genocide of Armenians took place, saying large numbers of Christian Armenians and Muslim Turks died in inter-ethnic fighting during World War I.

Retired Ambassador Nüzhet Kandemir, speaking with Milliyet, said, "Biden has so far been involved in all kinds of movements which are against Turkey," and that "Biden's anti-Turkey manner has ossified," apparently hinting that Biden's attitude would not change even when he takes on responsibilities as vice president. Biden was among a delegation of US senators who visited Ankara in February this year, when they also met with both President Abdullah Gül and Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

Then, Biden, along with John Kerry and Chuck Hagel, spoke with Gül and Erdoğan, praising both the relations between their country and Turkey and Ankara's support in restive parts of the world such as Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Their visit to Ankara was part of a tour that included stops in India and Pakistan. Speaking to reporters after a one-hour meeting with Erdoğan, Biden then said Turkey and the United States shared strategic interests and objectives.

Kınıklıoğlu planning to hold talks with McCain, Obama consultants

Amid concerns within domestic public opinion over US Democratic presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama's selection of Senate colleague Joe Biden as his running mate since Biden is well known for his policies that run against the interests of Ankara, a leading deputy of the ruling Justice and Development Party (AK Party) is considering visiting the United States in October.

Suat Kınıklıoğlu, the AK Party's Çankırı deputy, told Today's Zaman yesterday that he has been planning to meet with figures from both the campaigns of Republican presidential candidate Senator John McCain and Obama when he travels to the United States in October.

"I must say that I'm surprised with Obama's selection of Biden. It is not easy to be happy with this selection when looking from Turkey and considering Biden's almost two-decade-long firm support of the Armenian disapora's efforts for recognition of their allegations of a genocide," Kınıklıoğlu, who was head of the German Marshall Fund's Turkey office before being elected to Parliament in July 2007, said when reminded of the fact that a considerable number of Turkish daily newspapers yesterday disapproved of Obama's selection of Biden as a running mate. "The only thing we can do now as citizens of Turkey is to wish Obama and Biden luck, although this combination is not very hope-inspiring from Turkey's perspective. However, the most important duty for nongovernmental organizations and the media as well as politicians is to thoroughly inform the Obama camp about Turkey's policies and understanding on certain issues. We should engage both the McCain and Obama camps before one of them is elected, not after the election is over," Kınıklıoğlu said.

"I believe domestic public opinion will follow McCain's strategies during the electioneering more closely than before given the disappointment over Biden's selection," he, nonetheless, added. Emine Kart Ankara

25 August 2008, Monday
TODAY'S ZAMAN ANKARA

[gorgona]

I’m liking Biden more and more. And if Turkey doesn’t like him, all the better

[Prokomenos]

Boo hoo
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to the Turks. They should stop whinning. Anyways its not like Obama is going to actually get voted President.

[gorgona]

Originally Posted by Prokomenos
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Boo hoo
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to the Turks. They should stop whinning. Anyways its not like Obama is going to actually get voted President.

I wouldn’t be too sure. His campaign really has its act together.

[Prokomenos]

Between Obama and McCane Id rather have Obama since supposedly he in support of the Greeks. The problem is though McCane is white and Obama is not so he will not make it as president. Im convinced he wont be voted. Trust me Id rather have him then McCane even though they are both knuckle heads.

[gorgona]

Originally Posted by Prokomenos
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Between Obama and McCane Id rather have Obama since supposedly he in support of the Greeks. The problem is though McCane is white and Obama is not so he will not make it as president. Im convinced he wont be voted. Trust me Id rather have him then McCane even though they are both knuckle heads.

At first, I thought that there was no way he’d get elected. But the way he’s (his handlers) have run the campaign so far makes me think he has a good chance. And I think choosing Biden as his running mate was smart politically.

On the other hand, if McCain can keep the memory of the “black power” preacher alive, he’s probably in.

[Napalm]

That's interesting. I just assumed that since Biden was pro-albo anti-Serb he would of naturally been pro-Turk.

I have to agree with P that Obama probably won't get elected now. About a month or 2 ago i would of said Obama would of won narrowly (including my vote in GR's front page poll).

I personally think now the Clinton lobby will vote McCain so that Hillary can run in 4 more years again.

[Nikoz78]

I don't think Obama can win. I see a lot of young people rallying on TV and what not, but there is a chance that many of them won't actually bother to go out and vote.

Republicans on the other hand, mostly small business owners who don't want to be taxed to death, will bother to vote.

Clinton would have won if Obama did not ruin the Democratic nomination for her.

I think a European-American woman will be President before an African-American man.

And this brings up another point... if Obama wins does that mean the United States in no longer a "European" country? The Statue of Liberty faces Europe. Not Africa, the Middle East or Asia. Yes, America was always intended to be a 'melting pot,' but a melting pot of different European nationalities and cultures. We are
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It's not about being "white" (a concept not known in Europe until modern times). Our unique European-mutt society/culture is fading away. Are we going to just let everybody come here with a number of different cultures, ethnicities and religions and not only not ask them to assimilate at all, but actively encourage them to retain their decidedly un-European religions, etc... maybe I've said too much.

But whats next, a Turkish minority guy running Greece?

[phoenix]

Originally Posted by Prokomenos
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Between Obama and McCane Id rather have Obama since supposedly he in support of the Greeks. The problem is though McCane is white and Obama is not so he will not make it as president. Im convinced he wont be voted. Trust me Id rather have him then McCane even though they are both knuckle heads.

I agree with you thr P,although I'm from AUS ,I'm a republican by heart!
lols

[Ellinas]

Most Greeks are not actually interested in the politics of USA, but among the ones I saw having some interest on them, they all support Obama.

It looks like he and members of his party expressed some pro-Greek views but I am not going to make any comments about this before the elections - if he gets elected, his actions will prove if these views are real. To become president of USA you have to enter a lobby, otherwise you simply can't. So if Obama wants to become president he will have to follow the directions of this lobby I guess, indepedently of what he says now.