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06-05-2008, 06:00 AM
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#1 | | Super Moderator
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My Mood: Points: 173,592.22 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 173,592.22 | Greek MP asks for death penalty for skops in Greece Greek MP asks for death penalty for Macedonians in Greece
According to Athanassios Plevris, ethnic Macedonians committed a felony when they described "Skopje" as "Macedonia" and the language as "Macedonian".
Death penalties were demanded for the members of the "Vinozito" party of the Macedonian minority in Greece, as well as for "Greek Helsinki Watch", by Member of the Greek Parliament, Athanassios Plevris of "The People's Orthodox Rally" ("LAOS") Party.
The MP of the ultra-nationalist party Georgios Karatzaferis sent a written request to the Foreign Minister, Dora Bakoyannis and to the Minister of Justice, Sotirios Hadjigakis saying that there is a map of Europe on the VINOZHITO website showing "Skopje" as Macedonia and that "Helsinki Watch", which is financed by the Greek government, talks about the existence of a Macedonian language. "This is absolutely unacceptable" he said as he describes the Macedonian language as "Slavic".
Treason
Furthermore MP Plevris asked Minister Hadjigakis if he intends to start legal procedures against the two organizations following the criminal code, article 30, paragraph 1. According to Plevris the two organizations are violating article 138, to which the highest degree of penalty should be appropriately levied because it applies to violation of territorial integrity: "Which by means of threat of violence there is intent to separate territory belonging to the Hellenic Republic and join it to another country". The penalty for such a violation is death, states the article.
The last time a death penalty was executed in Greece was August 25th, 1972. Vasilis Limbersis was shot because he had killed his wife, his mother-in-law and his two children. The Greek state abolished the death penalty except for treason and serious war crimes.
Plevris asked Bakoyannis how it is possible that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs finances such organizations serving the "Pro-Skopjan propaganda". The parliament's officers forwarded the letter to the prosecutor of the highest court. This happened on April 23rd, to which Vinozito reacted on May 23rd as follows:
"We would not need to be addressing this case if the answer of the Minister of Justice had been similar to that of the Foreign Minister Bakoyannis, stating that 'Greece as a democratic country guarantees freedom of speech to all its citizens, which, of course, applies to the members of Vinozito as well." This was stated in response to the statements made under the title "Now we are awaiting maximum penalty". According to Vinozito, Plevris's request is considered justified by the Minister of Justice, so article 138 could be applied to the ethnic Macedonians living in Greece .
Accused of irredentism
"Are we now back in the Greek Civil War? We are tired of repeating over and over again that the ethnic minorities are an internal issue. Again and again we try and emphasize that we are not irredentists and provocateurs. Only provocateurs pose the question of changing borders. The television media in this country, while pretending to practice democracy, constantly distorts our views and our positions. The political system here characterizes us as irredentists by force. Are we now expected to face the highest penalty for that?" asks EFA and Vinozito in a public statement.
Panayote Dimitras, chairman of the Greek Helsinki Committee, says that both Ministers are overly hostile towards Vinozito and the Greek Helsinki Committee and are willing to take action against them. This confirms the fact that in Greece it is dangerous to say "Macedonian state", "Macedonian language" and "Macedonian minority".
Last edited by Angelo; 06-05-2008 at 06:26 AM.
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06-05-2008, 08:37 AM
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#2 | | The Big Boss
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My Mood: Points: 4,068,982.36 Bank: 471,585,109.93 Total Points: 475,654,092.29 | Re: Greek MP asks for death penalty for skops in Greece This is interesting indeed. In my opinion I believe the death penalty should be enforced if those that commited treason are actually ethnic Greeks. If not I think an exile with a serious beatdown and humiliation on the way out of Greece would be more appropriate.. |
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06-05-2008, 08:52 AM
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Points: 314,006,277.45 Bank: 334,467,275.86 Total Points: 648,473,553.31 | Re: Greek MP asks for death penalty for skops in Greece This article is probably devious. I guess it comes from a foreign website and it's propagandistic.
I don't think any MP of any Parliamentary party would ask for the death penalty for members of the rainbow party. If Plevris mentioned something, I guess he mentioned the penalty for the enchorial sabotage of the country's territorial wholeness in a past judicial situation, wanting to underline the importance of such a case if it comes. |
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06-05-2008, 11:48 AM
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My Mood: Points: 35,398.10 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 35,398.10 | Re: Greek MP asks for death penalty for skops in Greece Quote: | This article is probably devious. I guess it comes from a foreign website and it's propagandistic.
I don't think any MP of any Parliamentary party would ask for the death penalty for members of the rainbow party. If Plevris mentioned something, I guess he mentioned the penalty for the enchorial sabotage of the country's territorial wholeness in a past judicial situation, wanting to underline the importance of such a case if it comes. | I agree with you! More than likely this bullshit propaganda by some westbulgarian bullshit artist!!! |
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06-05-2008, 12:10 PM
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My Mood: Points: 46,322.64 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 46,322.64 | Re: Greek MP asks for death penalty for skops in Greece Sounds like skop propaghanda to me.
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06-06-2008, 09:22 AM
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Points: 314,006,277.45 Bank: 334,467,275.86 Total Points: 648,473,553.31 | Re: Greek MP asks for death penalty for skops in Greece Quote: | I agree with you! More than likely this bullshit propaganda by some westbulgarian bullshit artist!!! | Besides, if something like this would be said by a LAOS member, there would be a huge fuss in the media caused by the parties of the left. And I heard nothing in the media. |
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06-07-2008, 02:27 PM
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Points: 17,866.64 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 17,866.64 | Re: Greek MP asks for death penalty for skops in Greece Every trecherous vermin battening the soil of Greece should be removed and banished. As far as the international organizations such as Helsinki watch, headquartered in Greece , whose sole function constitute the erosion of the nation state and the undermining of greek culture and traditions, they should be booted out without further a do |
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