Danish Nationalist leader says Danish identity under threat from Muslim immigrants

[Prokomenos]

Danish Nationalist leader says Danish identity under threat from Muslim immigrants[/b][/left]

Nationalist leader Pia Kjaersgaard's anti-Muslim outbursts have earned her many labels — and many votes.

"The most important thing for the Danish People's Party is to maintain the Danish identity," Kjaersgaard, 60, told The Associated Press in an interview.
"I am convinced that the Islamists want to sneak Sharia (Islamic law) through the back door, that they want to combat Western society and they want Islam to become the main religion," she said.

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my opinion she has a great point whether some people agree with me or not. They are a small country to begin with and once your ethnic identity is threatened by immigrants to the point where your going to become a minority in your own country its a big problem. Dont you all agree that it has to stop somewhere? 

[Mr. Verenidou]

Danish Id? They have to explain what "Danish Identity" is, first of all. A decent culture ? No, The Danes come round. A radical language? No, Danish looks and sounds as if english is written in Turkish alphabet and spoken by a Kurd. Very funny indeed.

The society might be disturbed by Muslim immigrants and they have right not to want them in their country but then this is going to be agains Eu rules and EU's so-called " humanism". There is a growing Islamaphobia in Europe and The Usa and in many aspects, they are right. But i am apalled at the explanation:

" ...planning to bring Sharia back and convert everyone to Islam...". That is a pathetic excuse to express the disturbance in the society. And indeed, extremely cliche. The Danes are one of the most rascist nationa in the world - they want to disguise their hate against "the other" through manipulation, or simple figure of speech. They are still sensitive since that " charicatures of Mohammed" tragedy.:mpa:

[yiozik]

Every nation has the right to maintain its identity. EU does not mandate that a nation should bend its rules in doing so. What is interesting though is that the CIA’s “The World Factbook" shows the following data:

1. Turkey Religions: Muslim 99.8% (mostly Sunni), other 0.2% (mostly Christians and Jews)
2. Turkmenistan Religions: Muslim 89%, Eastern Orthodox 9%, unknown 2%
3. Bahrain Religions: Muslim (Shi'a and Sunni) 81.2%, Christian 9%, other 9.8% (2001 census)
4. IRAN Religions: Muslim 98% (Shi'a 89%, Sunni 9%), other (includes Zoroastrian, Jewish, Christian, and Baha'i) 2%
5. IRAQ Religions: Muslim 97% (Shi'a 60%-65%, Sunni 32%-37%), Christian or other 3%
6. Syria Religions: Sunni Muslim 74%, other Muslim (includes Alawite, Druze) 16%, Christian (various denominations) 10%, Jewish (tiny communities in Damascus, Al Qamishli, and Aleppo)
7. UAE Religions: Muslim 96% (Shi'a 16%), other (includes Christian, Hindu) 4%
8. Saudi Arabia Religions: Muslim 100%

If Muslim nations are not really tolerant or welcome other religions, which in my book are also an identification of a specific ethnicity, why should any other nation do? Let us not forget that predominately empires have risen and fall due to religion while the biggest atrocities were and still are performed in the name of a religion.

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[Prokomenos]

Very good point yiozik and good information. Id like to know Mr. Verenidou response.

[Prokomenos]

Originally Posted by Mr. Verenidou
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Danish Id? They have to explain what "Danish Identity" is, first of all. A decent culture ? No, The Danes come round. A radical language? No, Danish looks and sounds as if english is written in Turkish alphabet and spoken by a Kurd. Very funny indeed.

The society might be disturbed by Muslim immigrants and they have right not to want them in their country but then this is going to be agains Eu rules and EU's so-called " humanism". There is a growing Islamaphobia in Europe and The Usa and in many aspects, they are right. But i am apalled at the explanation:

" ...planning to bring Sharia back and convert everyone to Islam...". That is a pathetic excuse to express the disturbance in the society. And indeed, extremely cliche. The Danes are one of the most rascist nationa in the world - they want to disguise their hate against "the other" through manipulation, or simple figure of speech. They are still sensitive since that " charicatures of Mohammed" tragedy.:mpa:

Thats funny that you should say that about Danish. People like you are quick to label people racist because they want to maintain their ethnic identity. Whats wrong with that? Whats wrong with a country not wanting to be over run by foreigners?

[Mr. Verenidou]

Prokomenos : )

There is a big miscomprehension here. In my previous post, i had "jotted down" that the Danes have right not to favor them, they do not have to welcome all Muslims or the poor around the world. i just think that the statement made is "funny" and " cliche". Sure, there are people who want to see the other just like they are, but they can not label all immigrants in Denmark.

and prokemosaki, i worked and f.cuked with Danes so i know who they are. They are very very rascist, they even talk bad about the Swedish : ) ahahha, my clients were mostly Scandinavian, whilst saying those about the Danes, The Norwegians are great : ) I am so glad they are not in the EU. The Danes are mostly stingy, dirty and rascist - this is the impression i got from my clients : )

Turkey's population: %95 muslim (mostly sunni, the kurds are shafi and there are alewis as well). The rest is jewish/christian and shia. And we welcome all people here, once i took one of my greek friends to a village in Izmit and i had to leave him with my friend for a while. He told many funny stories about the people in village. An old man came and said:

- oh you are Greek, first, welcome and " do you remember how we kicked you into Aegean Sea" :) and some guys bought him "lahmacun" and "turkish tea" in a restaurant, they went to a vine and got some fresh grapes... he really enjoyed the trip in the village, but must state that the village is mostly Georgian/Laz/Circassian originated.

that's so funny, because my friend (a girl) in England told me:

- all Greek history taught in Greece is just trivial. You can ask any Greek in the streets who won the WWII and their answer would be : Dekserw :) Because the schools just pomp Greek ancient history, how we built up civilization and how rich our language is that influenced all languages in the world. They officially celebrate the independence of Greece from Ottomans and how Greeks beat down Turks but they do not tell that Turks subjected Greeks for over 400 years. It is just told in a half page and passed but the celebrated independence is told in pages :) I know these have got nothing to do with danish but i just remembered : )

Turkey must do more about non-muslim citizens, this is a fact but we do not express this through:

" Greeks in Turkey wanna realize Megale Idea so we must preserve our Id" : ) yea, there are people who think Greeks want to take over Asia Minor again. ahah but it's funny, it's just a fantesy.

and Prokomenos, have you read the post about Pontic Greeks in Trabzon i posted in Diaspora ?

[Mr. Verenidou]

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i am threatened by a Greek, 2 years ago, he somehow sent an invitation to my msn and i accepted it, i was curious. he kept saying: i am going to kill you ! i am going to do it for sake of both Greek and Turkish Nations : ) he lost it ! now he e-mailed me that he is in ankara - i moved from ankara 1 year ago, buddy : )

[yiozik]

Originally Posted by Mr. Verenidou
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Prokomenos : )


that's so funny, because my friend (a girl) in England told me:

- all Greek history taught in Greece is just trivial. You can ask any Greek in the streets who won the WWII and their answer would be : Dekserw :) Because the schools just pomp Greek ancient history, how we built up civilization and how rich our language is that influenced all languages in the world. They officially celebrate the independence of Greece from Ottomans and how Greeks beat down Turks but they do not tell that Turks subjected Greeks for over 400 years. It is just told in a half page and passed but the celebrated independence is told in pages :) I know these have got nothing to do with danish but i just remembered : )

I do not know about your English friend’s sources but I am an American of Greek decent who moved to Greece and went to a Greek school from 1st to 9th grade and the history covered in the Greek Schools is quite extensive. The 400 years of the ruling of the Ottoman Empire was quite well covered covering the government and military, economics and taxation, schooling and social trends. I can tell you that the national exams we had to take at 6th grade PANELINIES to proceed to what was called then GYMNASIO, grades 7th - 12th, where extremely difficult and covered all subjects and disciplines from language to history to mythology to science.

I can also tell you for a fact, most of my family are in academia, that the majority of Greek students studying abroad have no problem getting full equivalence credits for all the courses completed in either high school, undergraduate, or graduate schools and universities in Greece. That would not had been the case if what your friend in England said was true.

[Mr. Verenidou]

Einai mia ELLinika : O) she is not English at all and we met in a summer school in England. So she did not grow up in England, either. i do not kno, yiozik, that is what she told me but i know that every nation tells the history favoring their own country, including Turkey.

By the way, what's yiozik? It sounds Turkish.

[yiozik]

Originally Posted by Mr. Verenidou
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By the way, what's yiozik? It sounds Turkish.

It is not, it is Russian and it means porcupine.