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Old 08-04-2007, 01:38 PM   #21
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I would like to ask you, Megale, and Hellenika straight out if you dislike Jews? You all seem very callous about what happened to them.
I dislike favoritism. You can slant, warp and twist my words in here all you like but it makes you look like some kind of brainwashed puppet. I ask why is one group more important than all the others combined, and you interpret that in your own hateful way and then try to push it on me, as if i'm the hateful one when in fact, you are!!!

You seem to be callous to what happened to everyone else because you downplay their number of dead. You are the callous one! I asked only one thing and YOU STILL HAVE NOT ANSWERED ME! You have danced and skirted all around it, now you throw out accusations based on your warped beliefs.
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Old 08-04-2007, 01:40 PM   #22
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So, because you are tired of hearing about it history books shouldn't cover that major an event?

What Jew denied that the Turks commited genocide against Armenians or the Greeks in Anatolia? When I went to the Holocaust Museum in Washington, they covered the Roma (Gypsies), Homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses as well as the Jews. I was given a "passport" with information about what happened to a Roma gentleman from Romania.

I would like to ask you, Megale, and Hellenika straight out if you dislike Jews? You all seem very callous about what happened to them.

Look, I am not Greek. I am a guest here. If you want me to leave, just give me the word Prokomenos and I will not come back to this website.
A history book is just that a history book which would be a proper place for that subject. I dont want to turn on the tv and boom hear about it their or read editorials on every newspaper about how the jews suffered. I dont need to be reminded on a daily basis plain and simple.

Listen dont try to manipulate peoples opinions which is what you are doing. You started calling some deniers which is not true because I did not see anyone deny anything on here. Also that kind of stuff is not tolerated on this board. You also need to respect peoples opinions and stop calling them racists because they dont agree with your opinions.

As for your question I dont know why you even bother asking such a thing which is why I posted the manipulation part down.

Their are many jews that deny that a holocaust happen to Armenians and Greeks Ive seen it plenty of times on here. Once I find the sources I will post them on another thread.
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Old 08-04-2007, 01:43 PM   #23
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I'll answer you're question. I judge people individually, regardless of race. Its the only fair way. I and others have stated our problems with the holocaust industry, etc. i think they're legit questions and aren't based on hate. What surprises me is that you're going out of you're way to downplay the plight of you're own countrymen over the plight of another group. I will agree with you until the day a Jewish organization funds a museum dedicated to the Greek resistance in World War 2. After all, isn't that fair enough?? Now this is my final post on this topic so after you read it, you can finally get off online, eat something and finally get some rest. And by the way don't tell any Italians that they had it "good" during WW2, becasue the relatives of those 16 dead Italians won't like that at all. Also since you seem to be a very staunch anti-racist, you about you ease off on Turks, after all you want to be fair and consistant.
I'm glad that you judge people as individuals. There are good and bad people in ALL religions, ethnicities, nationalities, etc.

I don't see it as downplaying the suffering of my people. I didn't say the Italians didn't suffer during the war. We did. I only said that collectively we didn't suffer as much as the Jews. I would much rather have been living in my family's hometown during World War II than to have been a Jew anywhere in occupied Europe.

I don't judge all Turks as guilty of genocide. Where did I say that? I don't hate all Germans either, despite what some of them did during the war. Like you, I judge people by their own personal actions.
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Just so it is on the record, Greece suffered over 300,000 deaths in World War II out of a pre-war population of 7.2 million. That is over 4% of the population.

Only 20,000 of those were military deaths during the German invasion, the rest were civilians & partisans.
Where are these numbers coming from?
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I wouldnt believe everything on Wikipedia. I believe the number is 500,000 roughly if Im not mistaken. Anyone can write whatever they want on that site.
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I wouldnt believe everything on Wikipedia. Anyone can write whatever they want on that site.
These figures are fully docmented as to their sources.
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I ask you and Hellenika again if you dislike Jews? Also, if you, Prokomenos, want me to leave?
Does it really matter if I like them or not? What is it to you? Once you answer this question I will answer yours. I want to know why anyone would ask such a question just because they dont want to hear about it everyday.

Anyone can post on this forum as long as they follow the rules. Disagreeing with someone's views is not a reason to say I dont want someone here. So dont ask me that question again. If I dont want someone here I just ban them its real simple which I dont do unless they break the forum rules.
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Does it really matter if I like them or not? What is it to you? Once you answer this question I will answer yours. I want to know why anyone would ask such a question just because they dont want to hear about it everyday.

Anyone can post on this forum as long as they follow the rules. Disagreeing with someone's views is not a reason to say I dont want someone here. So dont ask me that question again. If I dont want someone here I just ban them its real simple which I dont do unless they break the forum rules.
It matters to me. You guys don't seem to care what happened to the Jews during World War II. I want to know if it is due to indifference or hostility towards them?
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I ask you and Hellenika again if you dislike Jews? Also, if you, Prokomenos, want me to leave?
And i will ask you again, what have I written anywhere to even make you think to ask me that question.
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