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Old 07-24-2008, 08:59 AM   #11
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One thing for sure is that the Albanians are not a native people to the Balkans or Europe.
Every DNA study I have ever seen on the Balkans says you are wrong, Prokomenos.
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Every DNA study I have ever seen on the Balkans says you are wrong, Prokomenos.
Which ones have you seen besides the one you posted. Albanians are not native to Europe.
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Which ones have you seen besides the one you posted. Albanians are not native to Europe.
The studies I posted before should be enough to settle the issue, but here is yet another study saying that the Albanians are most definitely European:


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^ Michele Belledi, Estella S. Poloni, Rosa Casalotti, Franco Conterio, Ilia Mikerezi, James Tagliavini and Laurent Excoffier. "Maternal and paternal lineages in Albania and the genetic structure of Indo-European populations". European Journal of Human Genetics, July 2000, Volume 8, Number 7, pp. 480-486.

"Mitochondrial DNA HV1 sequences and Y chromosome haplotypes (DYS19 STR and YAP) were characterised in an Albanian sample and compared with those of several other Indo-European populations from the European continent. No significant difference was observed between Albanians and most other Europeans, despite the fact that Albanians are clearly different from all other Indo-Europeans linguistically. We observe a general lack of genetic structure among Indo-European populations for both maternal and paternal polymorphisms, as well as low levels of correlation between linguistics and genetics, even though slightly more significant for the Y chromosome than for mtDNA. Altogether, our results show that the linguistic structure of continental Indo-European populations is not reflected in the variability of the mitochondrial and Y chromosome markers. This discrepancy could be due to very recent differentiation of Indo-European populations in Europe and/or substantial amounts of gene flow among these populations."

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"In conclusion, on the basis of the polymorphisms here analysed, the Albanian population does not reveal any specific pattern that distinguishes it from the Indo-European gene pool of Europe."
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Which ones have you seen besides the one you posted. Albanians are not native to Europe.
Exactly, all these "studies" sample only a microscopic percentage of the Albanian population. I have seen studies that have only sampled 16-4 Albanians, for all we know those could be Albanians with mixed descent. Show me a large population sample of 1000-5000 Albanians from all parts of the country and maybe then I will believe their claims.
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Exactly, all these "studies" sample only a microscopic percentage of the Albanian population. I have seen studies that have only sampled 16-4 Albanians, for all we know those could be Albanians with mixed descent. Show me a large population sample of 1000-5000 Albanians from all parts of the country and maybe then I will believe their claims.
Believe what you want. These studies are by experts in the field and I've got a lot more faith in their opinion. And they're all saying the same thing. Show me any scientific DNA study that contradicts it.
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Michele Belledi, Estella S. Poloni, Rosa Casalotti, Franco Conterio, Ilia Mikerezi, James and Laurent Excoffier. "Maternal and paternal lineages in Albania and the genetic structure of Indo-European populations". European Journal of Human Genetics, July 2000, Volume 8, Number 7, pp. 480-486.
Who are these people, the ones in bold could be Albanians. Why does Albanian not sound or show a relationship to Greek, Latin or Celtic if they are ancient Europeans. Or sound/ show a relationship to Germanic or Slavic if they were more modern?
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Exactly, all these "studies" sample only a microscopic percentage of the Albanian population. I have seen studies that have only sampled 16-4 Albanians, for all we know those could be Albanians with mixed descent. Show me a large population sample of 1000-5000 Albanians from all parts of the country and maybe then I will believe their claims.
They are mixed with Turks and other Europeans. The Albanians always seem to like to show selected pictures of themselves, not what they most look like.
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Ive been trying to find some tests on Albanians. Im not having much luck but I know their are articles out their that will discredit the ones that Antonio found.
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I too looked up Albanian and DNA and didn't find much, but I did find this: how fitting
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DNA ties Albanian to theft: Charges filed in Ozaukee County after personal profile matches other crimes.
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DNA ties Albanian to theft: Charges filed in Ozaukee County after personal profile matches other crimes.
Lol that is something nobody can deny. Albanians equal crime.
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