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[Psaltis]

THE HELLENIC LANGUAGE

In this webpage of ours we'll present you with the latest evidence proving the ancestry of Hellenic language (as a consequence that the alphabet IS NOT a Phoenician invention) as well as some of its unknown features (such as i.e. that there is a great similarity of ancient Greek with a) the language of the Hawaii Islands inhabitants and b) the language of Ketsua - inhabitants of the Peruvian Andes).

The most important of the facts that prove the ancestry of the Hellenic language over the rest,
are the following : the discovery of the linear writings A' and B' by A. EVANS at Crete in 1947 and the decryption of linear B' in 1952..
the discovery of the Phaestus Disk in pressed-type iconographic writing system.the discovery of a wooden plate inscribed with linear A' at the Dispilio of Kastoria which currently constitutes the most ancient sample of writing in the world.

The Hellenic language is the most perfect human achievement in the linguistic field. And this, of course, is not incidental. Because 'the thought of a people is perhaps more directly expressed in the structure of language than in any other of his creations' (Kitto). This language, therefore, is the creation of people with superior thought and mental consistency. The qualities characterizing the language of the Hellenes, also characterize their being. Proof is that the same qualities (clarity, providence, power, expressional wealth etc) are found in their mental and artistic creations.

The inevitable conclusion is that the Greek language wasn't brought by some semi-savage tribe from its 'northern mountains' or 'the northern plains'. (Note of "UHH" - as the supporters of the indoeuropean origin of the Greek language claim-). It existed ab initio and developed in the same place for thousands of years. Its an evolution product of millennia. And the language that the Achaeans spoke or wrote was the continuation of the Pelasgian language and writing. This language, initially (Protohellenic) became diversified with the spread of Aegeans (Protohellenes) in vast (and distant from the metropolis) regions.

Thus arose the multiple Greek dialects and the relative to it languages of other nations (Iapetic homoglossy=Hellenic originated languages). As far as the writing is concerned, Sleeman and Evans proved that it was in use at the Aegean at least from 2,500 B.C. and the latest researches (inscriptions at Ithaca's Pilakata and Dispilio of Kastoria) raised it to the sixth millenium (5,250 BC).

Symbols - letters from protocycladit jar of Milos
(midle of 3rd milenium b.C.).
You can see "X" and "N" letters of the Greek Alfabet



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[Greece4Ever]

Originally Posted by Psaltis
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THE HELLENIC LANGUAGE

In this webpage of ours we'll present you with the latest evidence proving the ancestry of Hellenic language (as a consequence that the alphabet IS NOT a Phoenician invention) as well as some of its unknown features (such as i.e. that there is a great similarity of ancient Greek with a) the language of the Hawaii Islands inhabitants and b) the language of Ketsua - inhabitants of the Peruvian Andes).

The most important of the facts that prove the ancestry of the Hellenic language over the rest,
are the following : the discovery of the linear writings A' and B' by A. EVANS at Crete in 1947 and the decryption of linear B' in 1952..
the discovery of the Phaestus Disk in pressed-type iconographic writing system.the discovery of a wooden plate inscribed with linear A' at the Dispilio of Kastoria which currently constitutes the most ancient sample of writing in the world.

The Hellenic language is the most perfect human achievement in the linguistic field. And this, of course, is not incidental. Because 'the thought of a people is perhaps more directly expressed in the structure of language than in any other of his creations' (Kitto). This language, therefore, is the creation of people with superior thought and mental consistency. The qualities characterizing the language of the Hellenes, also characterize their being. Proof is that the same qualities (clarity, providence, power, expressional wealth etc) are found in their mental and artistic creations.

The inevitable conclusion is that the Greek language wasn't brought by some semi-savage tribe from its 'northern mountains' or 'the northern plains'. (Note of "UHH" - as the supporters of the indoeuropean origin of the Greek language claim-). It existed ab initio and developed in the same place for thousands of years. Its an evolution product of millennia. And the language that the Achaeans spoke or wrote was the continuation of the Pelasgian language and writing. This language, initially (Protohellenic) became diversified with the spread of Aegeans (Protohellenes) in vast (and distant from the metropolis) regions.

Thus arose the multiple Greek dialects and the relative to it languages of other nations (Iapetic homoglossy=Hellenic originated languages). As far as the writing is concerned, Sleeman and Evans proved that it was in use at the Aegean at least from 2,500 B.C. and the latest researches (inscriptions at Ithaca's Pilakata and Dispilio of Kastoria) raised it to the sixth millenium (5,250 BC).

Symbols - letters from protocycladit jar of Milos
(midle of 3rd milenium b.C.).
You can see "X" and "N" letters of the Greek Alfabet



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Great interesting post Psaltis Im actually suprised and impressed its about time you posted something with value lol.
That is actually a pretty good one, it has great information.

[O Tizimis]

Originally Posted by Psaltis
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THE HELLENIC LANGUAGE

In this webpage of ours we'll present you with the latest evidence proving the ancestry of Hellenic language (as a consequence that the alphabet IS NOT a Phoenician invention) as well as some of its unknown features (such as i.e. that there is a great similarity of ancient Greek with a) the language of the Hawaii Islands inhabitants and b) the language of Ketsua - inhabitants of the Peruvian Andes).

The most important of the facts that prove the ancestry of the Hellenic language over the rest,
are the following : the discovery of the linear writings A' and B' by A. EVANS at Crete in 1947 and the decryption of linear B' in 1952..
the discovery of the Phaestus Disk in pressed-type iconographic writing system.the discovery of a wooden plate inscribed with linear A' at the Dispilio of Kastoria which currently constitutes the most ancient sample of writing in the world.

The Hellenic language is the most perfect human achievement in the linguistic field. And this, of course, is not incidental. Because 'the thought of a people is perhaps more directly expressed in the structure of language than in any other of his creations' (Kitto). This language, therefore, is the creation of people with superior thought and mental consistency. The qualities characterizing the language of the Hellenes, also characterize their being. Proof is that the same qualities (clarity, providence, power, expressional wealth etc) are found in their mental and artistic creations.

The inevitable conclusion is that the Greek language wasn't brought by some semi-savage tribe from its 'northern mountains' or 'the northern plains'. (Note of "UHH" - as the supporters of the indoeuropean origin of the Greek language claim-). It existed ab initio and developed in the same place for thousands of years. Its an evolution product of millennia. And the language that the Achaeans spoke or wrote was the continuation of the Pelasgian language and writing. This language, initially (Protohellenic) became diversified with the spread of Aegeans (Protohellenes) in vast (and distant from the metropolis) regions.

Thus arose the multiple Greek dialects and the relative to it languages of other nations (Iapetic homoglossy=Hellenic originated languages). As far as the writing is concerned, Sleeman and Evans proved that it was in use at the Aegean at least from 2,500 B.C. and the latest researches (inscriptions at Ithaca's Pilakata and Dispilio of Kastoria) raised it to the sixth millenium (5,250 BC).

Symbols - letters from protocycladit jar of Milos
(midle of 3rd milenium b.C.).
You can see "X" and "N" letters of the Greek Alfabet



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The indoEuropean theory I believe is still in the air. It does not make sense that Greeks were indoEuropean. We have always been a unique people. Another reason for that theory which I dont buy is that it claims that the Albanian lanuguage is part of the indoEuropean family which in all sense it is not. They were technically never a European people to begin with but mostly a mongol type which later intermingled and became who they are today.

[Prokomenos]

I was always interested in the IndoEuropean theory. It makes sense to me. But then again you have individuals such as Dr. Aris Poulianos who makes you think twice on the origins of Greeks...

[Ellinas]

Prokomene can you mention any findings (skeletons, writings, structures etc.) that indicate the existence of the Indoeuropean peoples?

On the other side they are dozens of findings that indicate the presence of the Greeks in the Balkans and the existance of the Greek language, centuries before the period the Indoeuropean theory claims.

These findings are just stay in the obscurity because our silly scientists usually adopt the theories of the West without any research.

[Prokomenos]

Originally Posted by Ellinas
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Prokomene can you mention any findings (skeletons, writings, structures etc.) that indicate the existence of the Indoeuropean peoples?

On the other side they are dozens of findings that indicate the presence of the Greeks in the Balkans and the existance of the Greek language, centuries before the period the Indoeuropean theory claims.

These findings are just stay in the obscurity because our silly scientists usually adopt the theories of the West without any research.

If Im not mistaken the indoEuropean theory has a lot to do with the relation of languages ect... Im no expert in the subject at all but I will definately do my research and get back to you..... ;)

[Ellinas]

It has to do with the relation of races too. Actually that's how the Indoeuropean theory started, but today, because of the racism stuff etc, the language part is mentioned mostly.

But let's even consider that it has to do only with languages. Can someone mention a finding with the so-called Indoeuropean writing or alphabet? The one European and Indo-Iranian languages originated from?
I can mention a lot of findings with the Greek writing systems (Alphabetic, Linear A & B, Cypriot etc.) dated centuries (or even milleniums) before the period the Indoeuropean theory is referring to.

What bothers me is that the rediculous Indoeuropean theory is the most popular theory regarding the origin of the European peoples, while it has no proof or findings at all. Not even one!!

[Megale]

Originally Posted by Ellinas
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It has to do with the relation of races too. Actually that's how the Indoeuropean theory started, but today, because of the racism stuff etc, the language part is mentioned mostly.

But let's even consider that it has to do only with languages. Can someone mention a finding with the so-called Indoeuropean writing or alphabet? The one European and Indo-Iranian languages originated from?
I can mention a lot of findings with the Greek writing systems (Alphabetic, Linear A & B, Cypriot etc.) dated centuries (or even milleniums) before the period the Indoeuropean theory is referring to.

What bothers me is that the rediculous Indoeuropean theory is the most popular theory regarding the origin of the European peoples, while it has no proof or findings at all. Not even one!!

The problem with "Indo-European" theory is that its very very broad. I think the theory places most ethnic groups in Europe and even parts of Asia togather intothe category of "IndoEuropean" That is too big of a space and too many people to be all considered "IndoEuropean."

[Prokomenos]

Originally Posted by Ellinas
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It has to do with the relation of races too. Actually that's how the Indoeuropean theory started, but today, because of the racism stuff etc, the language part is mentioned mostly.

But let's even consider that it has to do only with languages. Can someone mention a finding with the so-called Indoeuropean writing or alphabet? The one European and Indo-Iranian languages originated from?
I can mention a lot of findings with the Greek writing systems (Alphabetic, Linear A & B, Cypriot etc.) dated centuries (or even milleniums) before the period the Indoeuropean theory is referring to.

What bothers me is that the rediculous Indoeuropean theory is the most popular theory regarding the origin of the European peoples, while it has no proof or findings at all. Not even one!!

Your right about linear A & B which date back to Myceanean and Minoan times. In fact read this little passage here which I added to Hellenic Life.net
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A number of Linear tablets have been found, mostly in palace and villa excavations. Linear B which was used by the Mycenaean's was the written script used at later Minoan times and was deciphered recently in 1953. It has been determined by linguistics that Linear B is a primitive form of Greeks which was spoken basically by all Greek tribes Dorians, Ionians and ect. Most of the tables found have been translated to contain inventories of goods in storage, and do shed some insight into the life of a prosperous society.

My thing is I like to look at both sides of the stories and I weight the options. I dont just look at A without examining the B side to it. Like I said Im not an expert and I used to heavily believe in the IndoEuropean theory until I discovered Poulianos and now Im researching the other side to the story so lets get that cleared up. Also Im not just going to believe someone because they happen to be Greek that would be completely foolish.

[pankration]

Bravo, Psaltis. In between your cigarettes, coffee and women you found time to present a very scholarly treatise. Well done. Just don't let your new found academia suppress your irreverence.;)