Can you read Ancient Greek?

[Apollyon]

Originally Posted by really
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Very interesting comparison, Apollyon, thanks. If I understand well, it seems then that it is the way the old alphabet letters are pronounced that is different.

Similarly, I wonder if in English, for example, people used to pronounce "thou" as "you", and the word was modified into you.

Ofcourse you know that the word "THE" was written in ancient english "THY" and propably they pronounced it as it was.

If you ask european people which language is similar to another , they will reply that english is very similar to german and latin.
The fact is that they have absolutely right, but I am going to add in the list that Hellenic is similar too because it happens to be the mother of the others.
That is obvious to me and the rest Hellenes who have a clue about such issues. Ofcourse the greatest percent of our people watch TV and they are interested only in what Paris Hilton did last night.They just know nothing.



I havent given you an answer yet to your question<<Why the Hellenic cities were built in specific distances from Delphi Oracle,like orbits.>>

Everything hellenic has to do with mathematics(geometry in fact) ,from a simple structure to our alphabet(generally our language). I dont know how is that possible but it exists.
The distances from the Oracle are derivatives of the golden mean (Phi-Φ).
My explanation is that if you have around you cities ,villages,factories etc , you just minimize the movement tax.

[kwstastrikala]

Exw na kanw arxaia apo to gumnasio.
Alla kai pali efeuga tis teleutaies wres pou kaname.
Den prokeite na katalabw tipota.

[really]

Apollyon, I think the reason English is considered closer to German and Latin is that there may be more of those roots than Greek roots, although that may not be correct. For one thing, almost all scientific words come from Greek words.

Are Latin and German based on Greek? This is the first time I hear this, as it seems to me Latin sounds very different from Greek, as well as the way they conjugate the Latin verbs, etc.

I am glad you still remember my question. That the distances from the Oracle are derivatives of the golden mean is a logical explanation. What is the "movement tax"?

[greekangel20]

I wish I could :/

[amicus_verus]

for my understanding, most european languages are direct descendant from greek or at least affected (enhanced) from greek. for me known exeptions are scandinavian languages and old dialects like gaelic, welsh and so on.

there are many words in other languages which are not foreign words and their roots are greek.

for example ekklisia, in french &eacute;glise, in spanish iglesia

[Apollyon]

Originally Posted by really
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Apollyon, I think the reason English is considered closer to German and Latin is that there may be more of those roots than Greek roots, although that may not be correct. For one thing, almost all scientific words come from Greek words.

Are Latin and German based on Greek? This is the first time I hear this, as it seems to me Latin sounds very different from Greek, as well as the way they conjugate the Latin verbs, etc.

I am glad you still remember my question. That the distances from the Oracle are derivatives of the golden mean is a logical explanation. What is the "movement tax"?

First of all we have to accept that the terms of astronomy, medical and theology are hellenic. Ancient Hellenes worked on those and if there are new discoveries, their terms are in hellenic just to pay a supposed tribute to the pioneers.That's what I think...

About German language: I don't speak german but I had a friend who had a degree on that language and he also knew ancient hellenic too. He said the grammar and the syntax of those two languages was/is the same.(not similar,the same).

About movement tax: I don't know how I can tell it. umm.... if u produce something in canada and sell it to usa and europe, the cost of that product in usa market it will be less than the cost in european market because of the distance.

[really]

That is interesting what you said about the German language, Apollyon. Who could have thought so? I know Greece has a lot of influence on European countries since it is the birth place of Western civilization, but am not sure of its influence on Germany. I don't know much about German culture, that's why.

From your explanations about the movement tax, it would seem then that the Greek cities were built to optimize the distance from the Delphic Oracle while still keeping it as the core center.

[mickyv]

There is a very rare book called "Hebrew is Greek" by an Israeli scholar called Joseph Yahuda, which claims that Biblical Hebrew is "camouflaged" Greek.

[Akasha]

Originally Posted by Apollyon
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About German language: I don't speak german but I had a friend who had a degree on that language and he also knew ancient hellenic too. He said the grammar and the syntax of those two languages was/is the same.(not similar,the same).

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this is not exactly correct, however, i do remember a few peculiar things from my time in school. i should add that i was born in austria, and grew up speaking german, and i did learn greek when i was about 9 years old and my parents moved to greece. subsequently i finished the lykeion in athens/greece.

now, interesting is, that homerian ancient greek translates almost word by word into syntactially correct german, whereas later ancient greek, like the athenian, is close, but already different enough to not be really easy anymore. i was always very happily translating voluntarily homer, since i was able to translate it first into german, then into greek, which i was able to do much easier than with the other pieces of ancient greek. i owe to that a passable grade in my ancient greek, and i am glad.

As for words in general, essentially all the latin languages, like french, italian, romanian etc, come directly from, aha, latin, as the name says. however, that does not mean that latin itself hasn't lots of greek words in it. do not forget that the roman empire was all to glad to incorporate classical greek learning, literature, and many more things. you will find in classical latin many many words which roots come from ancient greek. with some it is more obvious, with some not as much. as well do not forget that many many words have crossed over as well with christianism, like the aforementioned eklisia.

and of course, we have to thank the scholars throughout the history which choose greek and latin as their main sources for words to describe certain words, which they choose, depending on their speciality mostly from one of these languages. most notably medicine, where i am able to understand most of what others perceive as gibberish, because lots of these words are more or less straight from greek.

[Prokomenos]

Ive actually got a question. Is it true that the Cypriot dialect is similar to Ancient Greek? Ive been told that by quite a few Cypriot Greeks.