Greek Numbers

[really]

Because the Greek alphabet is different, I wonder if there were Greek numbers that were used that were different than those we are using now. For example, the Romans spoke Latin and used Roman numbers.

[Apollyon]

Originally Posted by really
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Because the Greek alphabet is different, I wonder if there were Greek numbers that were used that were different than those we are using now. For example, the Romans spoke Latin and used Roman numbers.

Hellenic alphabet is a, uhm how can I say it, an alphanumerical code.
For example
the first letter is A (Alpha ) = 1 (it symbolizes the Horse and NOT the Ox as many believe)
B (veta ) = 2
Γ (wama ) = 3
Δ (thelta ) = 4
Ε (Epsilon )=5 (it symbolizes God,... four powers,earth,water,air,fire which in the Great spirit dwell) .... the name of 5 is pente=πέντε ( or panta = πάντα, pan=everything and shows the five fingers of a man's hand)
ΣΤ(Siwma tau) = 6 (this is not a letterof alphabet,it is only used in numbers)
Ζ (Zeta) =7
Η (Eta) = 8
Θ (Theta) = 9
Ι (Iota) =10 ( the name of 10 is theka=δέκα = δέχομαι =thexome-accept,and shows the open hands-10 fingers- of a man when accept a gift for example)
Κ (Kapa ) =20 (20=Είκοσι= ikosi , from the verb εικάζω=ikazo=quess,suppose, and shows the -supposed to be- whole man-20 fingers-) ( as you can see Eikosi's three first letters are E=5, I=10,K=20)
Λ (Lamtha) = 30
Μ (Mi ) = 40
Ν (Ni ) =50
Ξ (Ksi) = 60
Ο (Omikron) = 70
Π (Pi ) = 80 ( For =90 there is a symbol,a thunder i remember)
Ρ ( Ro) =100
Σ (Sigma) = 200
Τ (Tau) =300
Υ (Ypsilon)= 400
Φ (Phi) = 500
Χ (Chi ) = 600
Ψ (Psi ) = 700
Ω (Omewa ) = 800
another symbol for 900

Well, some of the above numbers are wrong cause I dont remember them ,but I believe someone with time to spare will find the correct ones through internet.

[Ellinas]

Originally Posted by Apollyon
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Well, some of the above numbers are wrong cause I dont remember them ,but I believe someone with time to spare will find the correct ones through internet.

After a first look, I think they are all correct. A complete list can be found here:
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Also every word of the Hellenic language has a lexarithm, a number that corresponds to, and this number comes from the combination of the letters. For example the lexarithm of the word ΕΛΛΑΣ is 266. It is believed that related words or phrases have related lexarithms, and in general that the word lexarithms are not circumstantial [an impressive example is that the lexarithm of the word ΚΟΣΜΟΣ is exactly 600]. I can't say much about the issue though, as I haven't reasearched on it.

[really]

Thank you very much for your explanations, Apollyon and Ellinas.

This is truly astonishing! I have never heard of this. Look at the Greek ingeniosity, isn't this nice! That list is great, Ellinas, thanks for the link. I have to study it a little bit more.

I wonder if the Greeks in America even know about it? Did both of you learn this in school?

[Ellinas]

Originally Posted by really
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Thank you very much for your explanations, Apollyon and Ellinas.

This is truly astonishing! I have never heard of this. Look at the Greek ingeniosity, isn't this nice! That list is great, Ellinas, thanks for the link. I have to study it a little bit more.

I wonder if the Greeks in America even know about it? Did both of you learn this in school?

They were references to the letters and the number they correspond to in school, but not wide references. To learn about the lexarithms, you have to research independently.

[Ellinas]

I found a programme which converts Greek words to lexarithms. It can be downloaded here:
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[really]

How interesting! Thanks very much, Ellinas.

Imagine such a word, lexarithm. It sounds nice.

[Ellinas]

Because of this thread, my interest on lexarithms got warmed over. After some reasearch on the internet, I found out some amazing things:

The phrase ΜΗΚΟΣ ΠΕΡΙΦΕΡΕΙΑΣ ΚΥΚΛΟΥ means "length of the circle's circuit" has a lexarithm of 2294. The word ΔΙΑΜΕΤΡΟΣ means diameter and has a lexarithm of 730.
2294/730 gives a quotient of 3.1424657534 which is the π in the circle!!!!

As you can see in the image, exactly the same happens with the formula of φ, if you replace the variable with their meaning in Hellenic:


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ΜΟΝΑΣ (one point) has a lexarithm of 361. If you make a sum of the digits sequentially (361 -> 3+6+1=10 -> 1+0 =1) you take the number 1 as you can see! The same happens with ΕΝ (one) which has a lexarithm of 55.
If you do the same with ΔΥΑΣ (605) and ΤΡΕΙΣ (615) - you take 2 and 3 in
correspondence!!
ΕΛΛΗΝ (Hellen, the genarch of the Greeks) has a lexarithm of 123!

The same with what mentioned above happens with ALL the letters of the Hellenic language. For example Α+Λ+Φ+Α = 1+30+500+1 = 532 -> 5+3+2=10 ->1+0= 1. So the sequential sum of the lexarithm digits of the full name of a letter, give the number the letter corresponds to!!!! This happens with all the letters!!! Personally I checked it only with A though, using the programme I posted before.

The worlds ΑΝΘΡΩΠΟΣ (human) and ΦΥΣΙΣ (nature) have the same lexarithm which is 1310!

The world ΤΙΝΑ has a lexarithm of 361 and the world ΑΝΤΙ has the same lexarithm, and it's natural as they have the same letters (everything exists, has its opposite). No Greek word was invented in an accidental way.

Note that the combinations are so many, that coincidence in most parts isn't possible.

[really]

It's truly amazing, Ellinas.

What is the φ used for?

I wonder if there has not been a book published on these kinds of comparisons already, did you find anything like that?

[Ellinas]

Originally Posted by really
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It's truly amazing, Ellinas.

What is the φ used for?

I wonder if there has not been a book published on these kinds of comparisons already, did you find anything like that?

Φ is used for the golden ratio:
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They are Greek books about all these, I doubt if they are any in English though.