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[Angelo]

Originally Posted by phoenix
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Angelo,do me a favour and get the stats fOR the Russian SIKOY fighter and the RAPTURE..
I'm sure that the Russian fighter will impress...

I will bro the sukhoi 35-37 was offered to Greece, with full production in Greece best offer yet its in the tender for are next generation fighter but it doesnt stand a chance too win because were in NATO
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Data from KNAAPO Su-35 page,[11] Su-35 booklet,[12] Gordon and Davidson,[13] MAKS 2007 Su-35 display[14]

General characteristics
SUKHOI 35


Crew: One
Length: 21.9 m (72.9 ft)
Wingspan: 15.3 m (50.2 ft)
Height: 5.90 m (19.4 ft)
Wing area: 62.0 m² (667 ft²)
Empty weight: 17,500 kg (38,600 lb)
Loaded weight: 25,300 kg (56,660 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 34,500 kg (76,060 lb)
Powerplant: 2× Saturn 117S with TVC nozzles turbofans
Dry thrust: 8,800 kgf[15] (86.3 kN, 19,400 lbf) each
Thrust with afterburner: 14,500 kgf (142 kN, 31,900 lbf) each
Performance

Maximum speed: Mach 2.25[11] (2,700 km/h,[14] 1,680 mph) at altitude
Range: 3,600 km (1,940 nmi) ; (1,580 km, 850 nmi near ground level)
Ferry range: 4,500 km (2,430 nmi) with external fuel tanks
Service ceiling 18,000 m (59,100 ft)
Rate of climb: >280 m/s (>55,100 ft/min)
Wing loading: 408 kg/m² (84.9 lb/ft²)
Thrust/weight: 1.1
Armament


1× 30 mm GSh-30 cannon with 150 rounds
2× wingtip rails for R-73 (AA-11 "Archer") air-to-air missiles or ECM pods
12× wing and fuselage stations for up to 8,000 kg (17,630 lb) of ordnance, including:
Air-to-Air Missiles
AA-12 Adder (R-77)
AA-11 Archer (R-73)
AA-10 Alamo (R-27)
Air-to-Surface Missiles
AS-17 Krypton (Kh-31)
AS-16 Kickback (Kh-15)
AS-10 Karen (Kh-25ML)
AS-14 Kedge (Kh-29)
AS-15 Kent (Kh-55)
AS-13 Kingbolt (Kh-59)
Bombs
KAB-500L
KAB-1500 laser/TV Guided Bomb
FAB-100/250/500/750/1000
Avionics
Passive phased antenna array. Avionics allows to track up to 30 aerial targets and to engage up to 8 of them simultaneously. Or 4 ground targets together with mapping and aerial space tracking. Can detect aerial targets with effective echoing ratio as small as 3 m2 on 400 km distance.

Aircraft lifecycle is 6000 hours or 30 years in service. 117S engine is the major modification of AL-31. It has 1000 hours service period, 1500 hours first overhaul period and 4000 lifetime period. Aircraft controls use a HOTAS design.

[Angelo]

Eurofighter Tranch 2 I cant find anything on tranch 3
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Data from Typhoon performance data,[125] RAF Typhoon,[126] BAE Systems page,[127] AFM [128]

General characteristics

Crew: 1 (Typhoon F2) or 2 (Typhoon T1)
Length: 15.96 m (52 ft 5 in)
Wingspan: 10.95 m (35 ft 11 in)
Height: 5.28 m (17 ft 4 in)
Wing area: 50 m² (538 ft²)
Empty weight: 11,000 kg (24,250 lb)
Loaded weight: 15,550 kg (34,280 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 23,500 kg (51,800 lb)
Powerplant: 2× Eurojet EJ200 afterburning turbofan
Dry thrust: 60 kN (13,500 lbf) each
Thrust with afterburner: 90 kN (20,250 lbf) each
Performance

Maximum speed:

At altitude: Mach 2 (2,120 km/h, 1,320 mph)
At sea level: Mach 1.2
Supercruise: clean Mach 1.5
Range: 1,390 km (864 mi)
Ferry range: 3,790 km (2,300 mi)
Service ceiling 19,812 m (65,000 ft)
Rate of climb: >315 m/s[129][130][131][ verification needed ] (62,007 ft/min)
Wing loading: 311 kg/m² (63.7 lb/ft²)
Thrust/weight: 1.18
Armament


Gun: 1x 27 mm Mauser BK-27 cannon
Air-to-Air missiles: AIM-9 Sidewinder, AIM-132 ASRAAM, AIM-120 AMRAAM, IRIS-T and in the future MBDA Meteor
Air-to-Ground missiles: AGM-84 Harpoon, AGM-88 HARM, ALARM, Storm Shadow (AKA "Scalp EG"), Brimstone, Taurus KEPD 350, Penguin and in the future AGM Armiger
Bombs: Paveway 2, Paveway 3, Enhanced Paveway, JDAM, HOPE/HOSBO
Laser designator, e.g. LITENING pod

[Angelo]

F-22 Raptor
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Data from USAF,[1] F-22 Raptor Team web site,[82] Lockheed Martin,[83] Aviation Week,[38] and Journal of Electronic Defense[40]

General characteristics

Crew: 1
Length: 62 ft 1 in (18.90 m)
Wingspan: 44 ft 6 in (13.56 m)
Height: 16 ft 8 in (5.08 m)
Wing area: 840 ft² (78.04 m²)
Airfoil: NACA 64A?05.92 root, NACA 64A?04.29 tip
Empty weight: 43,430 lb (19,700 kg[1][83])
Loaded weight: 64,460 lb (29,300 kg[84])
Max takeoff weight: 83,500 lb (38,000 kg)
Powerplant: 2× Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 Pitch Thrust vectoring turbofans, 35,000+ lb (156+ kN) each
Performance

Maximum speed:

At altitude: Mach 2.25 (1,500 mph, 2,414 km/h)[85]
Supercruise: Mach 1.82 (1,220 mph, 1,963 km/h)[85]
Range: 1,600 nmi (1,840 mi, 2,960 km) with 2 external fuel tanks
Combat radius: 410 nmi[82] (471 mi, 759 km)
Ferry range: 2,000 mi (1,738 nmi, 3,219 km)
Service ceiling 65,000 ft (19,812 m)
Wing loading: 66 lb/ft² (322 kg/m²)
Thrust/weight:

With full internal fuel: 1.09 (18,000 Pounds)
With 50% internal fuel: 1.26 (9,000 Pounds)
Maximum g-load: -3.0/+9.0 g[85]

USAF poster overview of key features and armamentArmament


Guns: 1× 20 mm (0.787 in) M61A2 Vulcan gatling gun in starboard wing root, 480 rounds
Air to air loadout:
6× AIM-120 AMRAAM
2× AIM-9 Sidewinder
Air to ground loadout:
2× AIM-120 AMRAAM and
2× AIM-9 Sidewinder and one of the following:
2× 1,000 lb (450 kg) JDAM or
2× Wind Corrected Munitions Dispensers (WCMDs) or
8× 250 lb (110 kg) GBU-39 Small Diameter Bombs
Additionally, four external hardpoints can be fitted to carry weapons or fuel tanks, each with a capacity of about 5,000 lb (2268 kg).[86]
Avionics

[Angelo]

Rafale

General characteristics

Crew: 1–2
Length: 15.27 m (50.1 ft)
Wingspan: 10.80 m (35.4 ft)
Height: 5.34 m (17.5 ft)
Wing area: 45.7 m² (492 ft²)
Empty weight: 9.1 t (Rafale C); 9.5 t (Rafale B); 9.8 t (Rafale M)[citation needed] ()
Max takeoff weight: 24,500 kg (54,000 lb)
Powerplant: 2× SNECMA M88-2 turbofans
Dry thrust: 48.7 kN (10,960 lbf) each
Thrust with afterburner: 73.0 kN (16,400 lbf) each
Performance

Maximum speed:

High altitude: Mach 1.8 (2,150 km/h, 1,160 knots)
Low altitude: 1,390 km/h, 750 knots
Combat radius: 1,852+ km (1,000+ nmi) on penetration mission
Service ceiling 16,800 m (55,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 304.8+ m/s (1,000+ ft/s)
Wing loading: 326 kg/m² (83 1/3 lb/ft²)
Thrust/weight: 1.13
Armament


Guns: 1× 30 mm (1.18 in) GIAT 30/719B cannon with 125 rounds
Missiles:

Air-to-air:
MICA IR/EM or
Magic II and in the future
MBDA Meteor
Air-to-ground:
MBDA Apache or
SCALP EG or
AASM or
GBU-12 Paveway II or
AM 39 Exocet or
ASMP-A nuclear missile
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Avionics


Thales RBE2 radar
Thales SPECTRA electronic warfare system.
Thales/SAGEM OSF (Optronique Secteur Frontal) infrared search and track system

[Angelo]

Data from F-35 Program brief,[102] F-35 JSF Statistics[78]

General characteristics
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F-35 JSF


Crew: 1
Length: 50 ft 6 in (15.37 m)
Wingspan: 35 ft 0 in (10.65 m)
Height: 17 ft 4 in (5.28 m)
Wing area: 459.6 ft² (42.7 m²)
Empty weight: A; 29,036 lb B; 32,161 lb C; 32,070 lb (13,170 kg A; 14,588 kg B; 14547 kg C;)
Loaded weight: 44,400 lb (20,100 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 60,000 lb (27,200 kg)
Powerplant: 1× Pratt & Whitney F135 afterburning turbofan
Dry thrust: 25,000 lbf[78] (111 kN)
Thrust with afterburner: 40,000+ lbf[78] (178+ kN)
Secondary Powerplant: 1× General Electric/Rolls-Royce F136 afterburning turbofan, >40,000 lbf (178 kN) [in development]
Lift fan (STOVL): 1× Rolls-Royce Lift System driven from either F135 or F136 power plant, 18,000 lbf (80 kN)
Internal fuel: F-35A: 18,480 lb (8,382 kg); F-35B: 14,003 lb (6,352 kg); F-35C: 20,085 lb (9,110 kg)
Performance

Maximum speed: Mach 1.6+[78] (1,200 mph, 1,931 km/h)
Range: A: 1,200 nmi; B: 900 nmi; C: 1400 nmi[78] (A: 2,200 km; B: 1,667 km; C: 2,593 km) on internal fuel
Combat radius: 600 nmi (690 mi, 1,110 km)
Rate of climb: classified (not publicly available)
Wing loading: 91.4 lb/ft² (446 kg/m²)
Thrust/weight:

With full fuel: A: 0.89; B: 0.92; C: 0.81[78]
With 50% fuel: A: 1.12; B: 1.10; C: 1.01[78]
g-Limits[103]

F-35A/B/C: 9 g
Armament


Guns: 1 × GAU-22/A 25 mm cannon — slated to be mounted internally with 180 rounds in the F-35A and fitted as an external pod with 220 rounds in the F-35B and F-35C.[78]
Hardpoints: 6 with a capacity of 15,000 lb (6,800 kg)[78],
Missiles: Internal: 4 air-air missiles or 2 air-air missiles and 2 air-surface weapons; External: 6 air-air missiles or 4 air-ground weapons and 2 air-air missiles.[82]

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[phoenix]

Well done Ange,very nice but ,i read somewhere i think in the AMYTIKA THEMATA or the AMYNA that the SUKHOI can reach the stratosphere out maneuver the RAPTOR,as the RAPTOR can only fly as high as 70.000ft and not as manoeuvrable as the SUKHOI...

[IoniaN]

I hope we get Su series or F-35. Its clear that no aircraft is even coming near to F-22 in BVR duties.

I ve seen the F-35's cocpit. The avionics are far better than Europian fighters and a stealth fighter.. On the other hand, Su series are the best in maneouvers.

Since we dont like Americans, i hope we get some Su XX series.

[Angelo]

The Eurofighter Tranch III that Greece will get will be able to take out F-35 export version the U.S is giving its Allies.With upgrade of are S-300 to S-400 and 2 more s-400

and about 60-70 bukm-2 and more tor-m1-2 that we will plan on getting before 2015 the f-35 wil not stand a chance in the Aegean

Lets not forget about this too
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[Angelo]

Originally Posted by phoenix
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Well done Ange,very nice but ,i read somewhere i think in the AMYTIKA THEMATA or the AMYNA that the SUKHOI can reach the stratosphere out maneuver the RAPTOR,as the RAPTOR can only fly as high as 70.000ft and not as manoeuvrable as the SUKHOI...

Take a look at this dude



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[Angelo]

Originally Posted by phoenix
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Well done Ange,very nice but ,i read somewhere i think in the AMYTIKA THEMATA or the AMYNA that the SUKHOI can reach the stratosphere out maneuver the RAPTOR,as the RAPTOR can only fly as high as 70.000ft and not as manoeuvrable as the SUKHOI...

The f-22 raptor is the top fighter in the western world, after comes the Eurofighter.

The f-22 raptor is too Advanced, the su-35 wouldnt stand a chance,but maybe this new Russian fighter might


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