Modern Greek Army

[Angelo]

Greek military arsenal 2008 {will constantly be updated}

L A N D F O R C E S
*MAIN BATTLE TANKS
GREECE:
-Leopard 2A6 HEL:170 {94/170 are in service}
-Leopard 2A4: 223 total numeber needed 400+ (Upgrading them later to A6 )
-Leopard 1A5: 514
-Leopard 1A3GR: 103 {13 were donated to Afganistan}
-Leopard 1V: 115 (10 equipped with meccanisms for minefield penetration.)
-M60A3 TTS:307 (will gradually be removed from front line and be give to reservist units)
-M60A1 RISE/RISE Passive:<273 (will be gradually withdrawed)
-M48A5 MOLF:396 (will stay in service untill the start of the next decade)
-M48A5:<259 (they are being withdrawed gradually)
-M48A3/A3 MOLF:11/4(For trainning)
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*ARMOURED VEHICLES
GREECE:
-BMP-3M 450 ordered {production to begin in the fall}

- BMP-3F 35-80 ordered {will be given free of charge from the Russians}
-BMP-1/P OST:501 { To be donated to Irak and Afganistan}
-VBL Panhard:241+ {209 to be ordered soon}
-Leonidas 2:491 {Greek made IFV}
-M113A1/A2:1679(part of them will be upgraded)
-M113A1:54 for medical purposes
-M125A1/A2:>200(with M29 Mortar 81 mm)
-M901A1/A2 ITV: 291 (With TOW Antitank missles)
-M106A1/A2:256(self propelled 107mm mortar M30 the 120 will be equipped with an E-56 mortar 120 mm)
-M125A1:>200(self propelled 81mm M29 mortar)
-M113 TOW:12
-M577A2:56
- Dach: 14 AEV {ordered}
*ROCKET LAUNCHERS:
GREECE:
-M270 MLRS:36
-MGM 140A Atacms Block I:102
-RM-70(40x122mm):116 (with new rockets they arrive at 36km range)
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*SELF PROPELLED ARTILLERY
GREECE:
-Pzh 2000(155mm):24 _{12 ordered} {plans to purchase more from Germany ,Dutch}
-M109A5:12{Plans to purchase more from America}
-M109A3GE A1:146 {plans to purchase 230+ from germany}
-M109A1B/A2(155mm):133(82 of them are A2.Plans for upgrading)
-M110A2(203mm):145
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*NON SELF PROPELLED ARTILLERY:
GREECE:
-M114(155mm):266(Big number under storage)
-M56(105mm):18
-M101(105mm):445 (part to be retired others in storage)
-Pdr 25(87,6mm):36(to be retired)
-M116(75mm):180(Big number retired…some under storage)
*ANTI AIRCRAFT MISSILES:
GREECE:
-MIM 23B Improved Hawk PIP3:42x3(upgraded to phase 3 )
-TOR M1:21
-OSA AK/AKM (SA-8/B):31(will be equipped with infrared cams)
-ASRAD HELLAS:54 under delivery with 432 Stinger Block I.
-FIM 92B/C Stinger & Block I:1237
ANTI AIRCAFT GUNS
GREECE:
-L/60 & M1 (40mm) :160 (remain from 227)
-Artemis 30 (2x30mm): 60
-ZSU-23(2X23mm): 506
-Mk 20 Rh-202(2x20mm) :285
*ATTACK HELICOPTERS:
GREECE:
-AH 64A+ Apache:20
-AH 64D Longbow:12 (with 4 Longbow radars)
*TRANSPORT HELICOPTERS
GREECE:
-CH 47 DG/SD Chinook:15
-NH 90:20 ordered (plus 16 option)
-UH-1H Iroquois:30 (upgraded to UH-1H Huey II level)
-AB 205A/A1&Bell 205A:75
-AB 206B Jet Ranger:16
-AB 212:1
-NH 300C:17(trainning)
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*ANTI TANK MISSILES:
GREECE:
-Kornet E:196{ plans to purchase more}
-TOW I/II:366(the 159 TOW I have been upgrade to II)
-MILAN:290(with MIRA night vision opticals)
-AT 4 Fagot:262
-RPG 18(64mm):18706 (plans for gradual withdrawing)
-M 72A2LAW(66mm):10841 (plans for gradual withdrawing)
-ACL 89 STRIM:135
*ARTILLERY GUNS WITHOUT RECOIL
GREECE:
-M40A1(106mm):1251(in use in national guard)
-M67(90mm):1376 (plans for replacement)
-Carl Gustaf(84mm):1988 (delivered 20.680 M551 rockets…equiped with night vision opticals)
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*MORTARS
GREECE:
-E 56 EBO(120mm):Production about to start.Needs for 420
-M2/M30(107mm):624
-E 44 EBO(81mm):460 + 430 more to be ordered
-M1/M29(81mm):2750 (1604 active service.The rest stored)
-M19:<150(retiring)
-Commando EBO (60mm):150
*AUTOMATIC GRENADE LAUNCHERS:
GREECE:
-H&K GMC (40x53mm): 633 under delivery from ELAS.AE
-Mk19 Mod3(40x 53):in SF units unknown number
N A V Y:
*SUBMARINES
GREECE:
-Type 214:4 (with AIP system 4 units will be delivered between 2005 and 2009)
-Type 209/1200:4(upgrading 4 ,including AIP system in 3)
-Type 209/1100:4 ( upgraded)
*MAIN SURFACE UNITS
GREECE:
-MEKO 200HN:4(frigates)
-Kortenaer:10(frigates) {4 have been upgraded}
-Type 420:5 (ASW Corvettes)
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*HELICOPTERS AND NAVAL COOPERATION AIRCRAFTS:
GREECE:
-P3B Orion:6(plans for new aircrafts)
-S 70B6 Sea Hawk:10
-AB 212ASW:8
-AB212EW:2
-SA 319B Alouette III:2 (trainning)
*FAST GUIDED MISSILE VESSELS:
GREECE:
-Super Vita:5 {option for 2 more activated}
-Combattante IIIB:5
-Combattante III:4 {2 have been upgraded}
-Type S148:6
*GUNSHIPS TORPEDO AND PATROL SHIPS:
GREECE:
-Mahitis class:3+1 under delivery (gunship,enhanced Pirpolitis)
-Pirpolitis class:2 (gunship)
-Osprey 55:2
-Typ S141 :4 (Jaguar class)
-Asheville:2
-Nasty:4 (torpedo boats)
-Kelefstis Stamou class:2
-Panagopoulos class:2
*MAIN LANDING SHIPS:
GREECE:
-Zubr:4 (hovercrafts)all delivered ..option for 2 more
-Terrebonne Parish:1
-Samos class:5
*LANDING CRAFTS:
GREECE:
-LCU Type 520:5
-LCM Type 521:11
-LCVP:55
*MINE SHIPS
-Hunt: 2
-Castano : 2
-Adjutant :1
-msc294: 8
*LAND BASED SYSTEMS
GREECE:
-MM 40 Block 2 Exocet:? forming 2 batteries (last year was reported as 20)
-Crotale NG:2 (SAMs)
-Bofors 40 mm L/70&L/60 : ?
-Mk 20 RH202 (2X20mm) :183
*PATROL SHIPS/COAST GUARD
GREECE
->29meters : 12 (SA’AR 4/Dilos class 4/Relliance 1/Europatrol 250mk1 1/
Abeking & Rasmussen 3)
->29 meters :91 (CB-90hcg 3/ Lambro class 16/ Sunquestor 43/ LS-51 16/
ol44 13/ Olympic l65 5/ D44 1/Crest Ital. 1/

A I R F O R C E
*TACTICAL COMBAT AIRCRAFTS:
GREECE:
-F 16 Block 52+:60 (20 are two seated)+ 30 more have been ordered delivery 2009
-F 16 Block 50D:40 [ to be upgraded}
-F 16 Block 30:34{ to be upgraded}
-Mirage 2000-5:28
-Mirage 2000EGM/BGM:23 {to be upgraded}
-F4E Peace Icarus 2000:35{ AMRAAM capable)
-F4E(SRA):25
-A7E & TA 7C Corsair II:55 (will be gradually withdrawed)

-A7H & TA 7H Corsair II:41(will be gradually withdrawed)

-RF4E:23 (will be gradually withdrawed)
- F1: 30 {in storage}
*AIR TO AIR MISSILES
GREECE:
-130 AIM-120 C-7 AMRAAM {ordered}
-AIM 120B AMRAAM:340 (100 are AIM-120C-5* Plus 50 more are ordered)
-MICA EM/IR:300 ordered(100 EM+100 IR)*option for 50 more
-Super 530D:80 (Plus 2 for training purposes)
-IRIS T: 300 (under delivery +300 option)
-AIM 9M Sidewinder:165
-AIM 9L/I1 Sidewinder:300
-AIM 9L/I Sidewinder:347
-AIM 9Juli/I1 Sidewinder:400
-Magic 2:304 (plus 12 for training proposes)
-AIM 9P4 Sidewinder:1000
-AIM 7E/F Sparrow:? (includes also 100 AIM-7E2)
*GROUND ATTACK WEAPONS/PODS:
GREECE:
-40 AGM-154-C Joint Standoff Weapons (JSOW). {ordered}
-100 GBU-31 Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAM} {ordered}
-200 CBU-103 cluster bombs {ordered}
-100 Enhanced Paveway II with BLU-109 {ordered}
-136 Enhanced Paveway II with MK-84 Warheads {ordered}
-JDAM 300
-AGM 88B HARM: 84(upgrading to BlockIIIA)
-SCALP EG: 90 (Storm Shadow)
-AFDS:70 (auto dispenser system,anti runway,anti tank)*option for 30 more
-Long shots : 300
-AM39 Exocet Block 2: 39 (anti ship)
-AGM 65G Maverick IIR: 200
-AGM 65 A/B Maverick: 284 (plans for upgrading in H)
-GBU 8/B Hobos: 96(electro-optical guidance)
-Paveway III: 200 GBU-24 and 250 BLU-109/B ordered
-Paveway I & II:1162 (LGB bombs)
-Mk 70 Condib:? (anti runways)
-BLU Durandal : 523
-AN/AVQ 23 Pave Spike:? (laser pod for F4E)
-AN/AAQ 14 LANTIRN:16 + 8 ordered pods for F 16 targeting
-AN/AAQ 13 LANTIRN:24 pods for F 16 navigation
-Litening II ALD:15 (both targeting and navigation)
-AN/AAR 45:?( IR navigation pods for A-7)
*ANTI AIRCRAFT MISSILES
GREECE:
-PAC-3 Patriot:6(with 200 missiles)
-S 300 PMU1:2{being upgraded to S-400}
-CROTALE NG:9 with 176 missiles (other 2 are in use for the navy)
-TOR M1:4
-Skyguard 1 :12 (Velos system)
-4xAIM-7M Sparrow :20 (Radar Super)
-GDF-003 (2X35mm) :24 (Giraffe. The RIM-7M are 280 to be upgraded)
-Artemis 30 (2x30mm) : 38
-Mk20 Rh202 (2x20mm) : 326

*TACTICAL TRANSPORT AIRCRAFTS
GREECE:
-C 130H Hercules:10(ELINT/SIGINT in 2.Upgrading with electronic equipment)
-C 130B Hercules:5(same upgrade programme)
-C 27J Spartan: 12 {+3 option}
-Do 28D Skyservant:12(Retiring)
*HELICOPTERS (SAR/CSAR):
GREECE:
-AS 332C1 Super Puma(SAR):4{Plans to purchase 15 more}
-AS 332C1 Super Puma(CSAR):4
-AB 205(SAR): 11
*AWACS:
GREECE:
-EMB 145H Erieye: 2 in service{2 more to accepted}

[Angelo]

It looks like production of 450 bmp-3m that Greece purchased from Russia will begin

30% of the money will be going back in into the greek economy

Σύμφωνα με δημοσίευμα των "Νέων", κλιμάκιο Ρώσων τεχνικών αναμένεται την επόμενη εβδομάδα στην Αθήνα στο πλαίσιο της προετοιμασίας για την υπογραφή της συμφωνίας αγοράς από τις Ελληνικές Ένοπλες Δυνάμεις 450 ΤΟΜΑ ΒΜΡ-3 αξίας περίπου €1,3 δισ. Αντικείμενο των συζητήσεων είναι η προώθηση της συμπαραγωγής μέρους του οχήματος στην Ελλάδα και η δυνατότητα εμπλοκής και άλλων εγχώριων αμυντικών βιομηχανιών στο πρόγραμμα. Σύμφωνα με τις προτάσεις που έχουν κατατεθεί στη Γενική Διεύθυνση Εξοπλισμών, υπολογίζεται ότι στην ελληνική οικονομία θα επιστρέψει, μέσω εγχώριων κατασκευών, έως 30% της αξίας των τεθωρακισμένων. Ήδη θεωρείται βέβαιο ότι σημαντικό έργο αναλαμβάνουν η ΕΑΣ, η ΕΛΒΟ και η Intracom, ενώ μετά την επικείμενη αξιολόγησή της τις επόμενες ημέρες αναμένεται και εμπλοκή της Miltech, πιθανώς και μερικές ακόμη. Στην Ελλάδα έχει προταθεί να γίνει, μεταξύ των άλλων, μεγάλο μέρος των ηλεκτρονικών και των καλωδιώσεων, οι ειδικές βαφές, τα δίκτυα παραλλαγής και πιθανώς τμήμα των πυρομαχικών. Στην Ελλάδα - στην ΕΛΒΟ και στο 404 Στρατιωτικό Εργοστάσιο Βάσης στη Θεσσαλονίκη- θα γίνει και η τελική συναρμολόγηση των ηλεκτρονικών συστημάτων και συσκευών. Ένα από τα προβλήματα που απασχολεί τις συζητήσεις Αθήνας- Μόσχας είναι το τελικό ποσοστό της συμπαραγωγής στην Ελλάδα, καθώς, όπως επισημαίνουν οι Ρώσοι, όσο αυτό αυξάνεται τόσο ανεβαίνει και το συνολικό κόστος. Πριν από τρεις εβδομάδες βρέθηκε στην Ελλάδα ο επικεφαλής του ρωσικού κρατικού φορέα εξαγωγών οπλικών συστημάτων Rosoboronexport Ανατόλι Ισαΐκιν και είχε συνομιλίες με τον γενικό διευθυντή εξοπλισμών Ε. Βασιλάκο για τους όρους της σύμβασης. Όσον αφορά τη θωράκιση για την οποία έχουν εκφραστεί διάφορες απόψεις- η ρωσική πλευρά αναφέρει ότι «δεν μπορεί παρά να είναι η μητρική, διότι αλλιώς αλλάζει η φιλοσοφία και η πλευσιμότητα του αμφίβιου σκάφους». Η εκτίμηση είναι ότι η σύμβαση θα υπογραφεί μέχρι τα τέλη του έτους.

Η απόφαση της κυβέρνησης πέρυσι τον Δεκέμβριο για την αγορά 450 ΒΜΡ- 3 από τη Ρωσία, που συνέπεσε ουσιαστικά με ευρύτερη ενεργειακή συνεργασία Αθήνας-Μόσχας για τους αγωγούς, έδωσε ώθηση και στο πρόγραμμα υποστήριξης των ρωσικής κατασκευής συστημάτων που βρίσκονται στο ελληνικό οπλοστάσιο και το οποίο καθυστερούσε. Ήδη έχουν προχωρήσει οι προετοιμασίες όσον αφορά τα αντιαεροπορικά συστήματα ΤΟR-Μ1 και ΟSΑ-ΑΚ, ενώ και στις δύο πλευρές υπάρχει η εκτίμηση ότι εντός του Σεπτεμβρίου ίσως υπογραφεί νέα σύμβαση για τη ροή ανταλλακτικών και την υποστήριξη. Σε εξέλιξη βρίσκεται και τεχνική συνεργασία για το αντιαεροπορικό σύστημα μεγάλου βεληνεκούς S-300 ώστε να είναι δυνατή η πρώτη επιχειρησιακή βολή έως τις αρχές του νέου έτους. Ανάλογη κίνηση αναμένεται και για τα Πλοία Ταχείας Μεταφοράς Ζubr, τα οποία αντιμετωπίζουν προβλήματα υποστήριξης. Όσον αφορά τα νέα εξοπλιστικά προγράμματα, η Μόσχα ενδιαφέρεται για τα εκπαιδευτικά και μαχητικά αεροσκάφη της ΠΑ καθώς και για τα αντιαεροπορικά μέσου βεληνεκούς και τα τροχοφόρα οχήματα του ΕΣ.



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[phoenix]

whrs your info from Angelo,Janes books?..

[Angelo]

Originally Posted by phoenix
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whrs your info from Angelo,Janes books?..

The info of are arsenal is from Amidiki biblos 2005-2006 addition am just updating purchases done after 2006.What do you think of Greece is weapons?

About the bmp-3m its all over greek newspapers and greek military forums that production will begin very soon.

[phoenix]

Iv read in the AMYNA THEMATA that is a fantastic piece of machinery and they did a comparison with the American equivalent and ,if it came one one and the American was to fire its javelin missile the BMP could fire after woulds and still hit it a lot quicker in turn disabling the laser guide of the javelin making the javelin useless...
I think, its a goodbuy..

[Angelo]

Originally Posted by phoenix
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Iv read in the AMYNA THEMATA that is a fantastic piece of machinery and they did a comparison with the American equivalent and ,if it came one one and the American was to fire its javelin missile the BMP could fire after woulds and still hit it a lot quicker in turn disabling the laser guide of the javelin making the javelin useless...
I think, its a goodbuy..

The only think am worried about is the armour i hope we added more.

What i hope is for are defence industry to get the most % possible in the deal so that a good chuck of the money stays in Greece

Its loooks like its at 30%, which is not bad for the deal we got.

Time will tell

[Angelo]

Greece seeks new maritime patrol aircraft to replace Orions

The Hellenic Navy has rejected a Lockheed Martin study for a mid-life upgrade of its six P-3B Orion maritime patrol aircrafts.



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[Angelo]

The replacement of Mirage 2000-5 by Rafale


The birth of a scandal

The French proposal to replace the Mirage 2000 and 2000-5 fighters with new type Rafale is a Trojan Horse in the framework of the new fighters selection by the Hellenic Air Force. In fact, it’s a globel novelty because the above aircraft have a long way to go before completing their operational life cycle and fully covering back the total cost of their acquisition program.
The French proposal submitted in the context of the new doctrine “Greece-France-New Alliance” is a smart move in any competition for the selection of the new fighter by the Hellenic air Force.
It’s an attempt to “promote” the selection and acquisition of Rafale through the back door at a political, diplomatic and military level making it look like a replacement of Mirage.
The duration of the fighters operational use internationally is normally estimated at 35 years. This life span allows for airwothiness and an extension of their life limit.Taking a closer look at the Hellenic Air Force’s fleet of 45 Mirage (M-2000 and M-2000-5), we will see that the 15 new Mirage 2000-5 can be operationally used for a minimum of 25 years whereas the remaining 10 upgraded to Mirage 2000-5 and 20 Mirage 2000 can be operated for another 15-20 years. Hence, a possible replacement should be considered from 2020 onwards based on the HAF’s current operational requirements.
It’s a fact that the HAF’s immediate requirements stem from the replacement of A-7 Corsair and the recovery of losses but non from the replacement of Mirage.
The replacement of Mirage will not benefit the HAF except the marketing and export efforts of the French Dassault regarding the Rafale fighter, whose customer list is inferior to that of the European Eurofighter and the US JSF (F-35).
The HAF’s circles say that Mirage 2000 and Mirage 2000-5 can undoubtedly contribute to the HAF’s overall operational capabilities for years to come.
In addition, the request to upgrade the remaining 20 Mirage 2000 to 2000-5 can be viewed as a profitable choice taking into account that it will boost the Hellenic industry.
However, in no case would the premature sale of these aircraft be thought of as an ideal solution for the Greek side.
The unreasonably high price that Greece paid for the total program of Mirage can not be sacrificed for the survival of the Rafale export program and the wider cost allocation of the French industry’s autonomous development. What is the average life span of the French Air Force’s Mirage 2000 and at which point is their replacement considered as a needing priority?
With great interest we listened to the speech of the French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who adressed the Greek Parliament plenum during his recent visit to Athens. This speech was unique in showing the French President’s communications skills and his vivid interest to help the French defence industry by securing 4,2 bln euro contracts with greece!
The Greek political leadership shall utilize the new doctrine “Greece-France-New Alliance”considering all parameters (various political, diplomatic and financial advantages).
Our country’s political leadership should also take into account all the other European countries that supported Greece’s important requests for the country’s development.
A very indicative example is the German support to the Greek requests and proposals regarding our country’s subsidizing in the framework of the 4th European Support Program.
The Greek foreign policy and in general the Premier and KYSEA members should carefully consider our relations with the US (after the imminent presidential election) as well as with the UK, Germany, Italy and Spain, which produce the Eurofighter and shall not engage in the French marketing and communication strategy, which, not to forget, gets straight “A”!!


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[Angelo]

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Iv read in the AMYNA THEMATA that is a fantastic piece of machinery and they did a comparison with the American equivalent and ,if it came one one and the American was to fire its javelin missile the BMP could fire after woulds and still hit it a lot quicker in turn disabling the laser guide of the javelin making the javelin useless...
I think, its a goodbuy..

Another good buy will be this too when we order it

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[phoenix]

Angelo,do me a favour and get the stats fOR the Russian SIKOY fighter and the RAPTURE..
I'm sure that the Russian fighter will impress...