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GREEK ARMY CREATES OPEN SOURCE INTELLIGENCE CENTER (OSINT)
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The Greek Army has created a global OSINT center- ΚΕΠΛΗ/ΓΕΣ-, by which it will monitor 24/7 all news, analysis, briefings, reports and information in general around military affairs worldwide. That includes a constant import of information from the media, websites, web logs, Think-Tanks, public comments and other OSINT based information, including web logs and public forums. The Center is embedded in the Army's J2 Staff Office.

According to the monthly defense journal in Athens “Strategy”; the center started operating on a pilot basis in October 2006 and became fully operational on May 2007. It is composed by 150 members (Officers& NCOs) that were selected on basis of their knowledge of foreign languages, internet management and education on issues relevant to OSINT management and intelligence gathering. Moreover most of the members of this unit underwent training in Greece and other NATO countries on the aforementioned sectors and some of them hold degrees in international relations, diplomatic studies and journalism.

Already in Greece since 2003 another similar directory exists, which is subordinate to the Joint Chief of Staff Headquarters which is directed by a Brigadier General on a rotation basis with the equivalent grades in the Navy and Air force. It is named Military Intelligence Chiefs of Staff Directorate.

The weekly Greek newspaper “Investors world” comments that this new Army unit is the first of its kind in South Eastern Europe and will play a decisive role in collecting the vital pieces of Open Source information that the country's Army might need. Already at least 90% of all information collected from intelligence or security services; comes from OSINT and it is vital for any organization to have its own modus operandi of getting the “Big picture” that hides behind a multitude of incoming information.

Moreover, the Greek Army OSINT center will have access to the Command Control and Information facilities of the Army, Navy and Air force. Thus it will be capable of conducting wide range researches across the country and speed-up considerably the “Intelligence cycle”. Over the coming years the Greek military aims to create an information structure that includes the use of satellites, AWACKS, OSINT Centers, CCTV’s, electronic surveillance planes &ships; so as to downgrade costs of intelligence handling and upgrade considerably its abilities in conducting “21st Century” intelligence management. Further, the Center closely cooperates with the Greek Police's "Electronic Crime Directory” that is being supervised by the Security Command of the Attica Prefecture.


A crucial addition to the Greek Air Force dynamic and in relation to the dynamics of the OSINT Center is the 4 EMB-145H AWACS that are being constructed by a French-Brazilian-Swedish consortium. Greece for the first time in its Air history will acquire air radar capabilities with an average detection range of 350 km for enemy planes and 150 km for incoming cruise missiles. It is assumed that these four aircraft could fully meet the needs for a defense from the Northern Aegean Archipelagos and up to the central Eastern Mediterranean Sea. The Greek Army already procured the French made Sprewer type UAV's that will assist for the real-time information mostly for the Eastern front in the Greek-Turkish borders.

Lastly along the OSINT Centre, a specialized team of Officers will monitor the internet for cases of intentional or unintentional leak of sensitive documents and classified information. The team enacted its operation a few months ago and according to the Greek media it has already uncovered six cases of leakages by military personnel that shared files or posted in the World Wide Web, documents of sensitive nature. In two instances it was revealed that ex-military personnel exchanged files of sensitive or even classified nature with foreigners via popular file-sharing systems in the internet.

Furthermore the team conducts inspections all-along the spectrum of critical information infrastructure of the military in order to make sure safety rules are followed and propose necessary adjustments. Its members were selected due to their computer and electronics knowledge and have in their use of hi-tech software platforms that survey internet constantly. They also cooperate closely with the Greek Police Special Unit on Electronic Crime that functions over the past decade. At that point it is interesting to note that the Greek State has decided on late July this year to form a platform of cooperation and interconnection between all organizations concerned with internet security, surveillance and telecommunications, even though no other details have surfaced in the press on how this will affect the military infrastructure of the country in that field.

The importance of the OSINT management has gained a wide recognition all over the world, and it is of importance to note that CIA has announced to the media over the past period that it monitors web logs all over the world, as a mean of gaining wide-angle information on societal developments internationally. The journalist Makis Pollatos, an expert on Greek Military, questions the ability of the Joint Chief of Staff intelligence center to withstand colleague pressure from the already existing J2 branches in the Army, Navy, Air force that view the newest development from a conservative point of view, fearing that their role will be downgraded in the future. Moreover the center has the potential and the legal framework, according to the Greek political review "Diplomacy" to recruit HUMINT assets, as well as, explore new means of acquiring essential intelligence by consulting specialized institutions, research centers, universities and the mass media.

The recent creation of a similar Army OSINT Center, reveals that conservatism was more due to internal antagonism and the future might find Greece with three Open Source Centers, along with a over sighting Joint one.

Greece apart from the Military Intelligence has a civil one, namely the National Intelligence Service-NIS- which in time of war or emergency becomes subordinated to the Ministry of Defense, whilst it normally remains under the authority of the Ministry of Public Order. The most recent information from the Greek press reveals plans of the incumbent government to reshuffle intelligence organizations and merge the Home Affairs Ministry with that of the Public Order. In that case the NIS might become an autonomous public body under the exclusive authority of the Prime Minister or a special division within the new enlarged Ministry.

As the complexities mount in the modern world and critical information have to be retrieved fast and accurately; the role of similar OSINT centers will increase and spread throughout the military structures of all states in the world. In the case of Greece a significant effort began for the safety of Olympic Games in 2004, and continues up to date with the re-engineering of the intelligence apparatus of the country.

Sources:

1)"Greek Defense Developments", By Ioannis Michaletos, 18-03-07, Greek Studies Section, Research Institute on European & American Studies-RIEAS-,
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2)"Army's Intelligence Center", News Briefs, April 2007, Defense & Diplomacy Journal, P. 84 Vol. 192, Athens-Greece

3)"Greek Army enacts OSINT Center", Greek Information Section, April 2007, Greek Defense Journal, P. 25, Vol. 14, Athens-Greece

4)" Army's Information Unit",News Briefs,March 2007, Strategy Journal, P. 33, Vol. 150, Athens-Greece

5)"The Military Intelligence", By Makis Pollatos, February 2006, Diplomacy Journal Vol. 27, Athens-Greece

6)"Army creates Intelligence Center", By Manos Iliades, 31-03-07, Investor's World Newspaper, Peristeri-Greece

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Orea tha einai!

Exo kati erotisis akoma:

Tha paroume akoma kainourgies fragates i tha perimeni auto akoma oste na paroume ta kainourgia maxitika aeroskafi?

I ellada tha pari akoma ergalio aeraminas? Akousa oti endiaferomaste gia to S-400.

Teleftees erotisis:
Tha parei i ellada akoma ala Leo 2A6 i ftanoune auta ta leo pou exoume.
I tourkia tha exi me ta kainourgia tous T-129 kapou sta 70 elekoptera, i
ellada exi mono giro sta trianda apachees, mipos tha parei kiala apachee i ftanoune auta?
esy ti lete?

Tha mareze an sizitousame edo kiolas.



Kali anastasi sas euxome olous!

[Angelo]

H Hellas tha pari kainourgies fregates kai maxitika aeroskafi protou 2009

H ellas tha pari 2 S-400 {Long range} upgrade S-300 to S-400 kai buk m1-2 {medium range} kai pantsir low range apo Russia pote den eimai sigouros.H tourkoi den exoune
aeramina,oti exoune einai apo to 1960 oute poulia ten poroune na piksoune
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Gia ta Leopard 2A6Hell i Hellas siga siga agorasi apo Germania pola Leopard 2A4 poli ftina,

tha ta kanei upgrade to Leopard 2A6hell, apo ti lenai meta 2013.exoume mazepsi 222

Leopard 2A4 kai agorazoume ala.H tourkia kimate then exi tanks ta 170 sabra pou tous kani upgrade i israelini exoune pola problimata i tourki tous ta stilane piso
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Kai ta leopard 2a4 pou tous poulisane i Germani exoune {engine problems}
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Ola afta pou leo enai alithia ta lene i tourki sta military forums.

Ta T-129 tha agorasoune 51 prota +{40 option maybe} einai {light atack helicopters] einai gia ta skoupithia,mono kala na kinigane kourdous.To programma auto exei {delays} einai sta thikastiria.Gia topa ftanoune ta 32 apaches pou exoume ala tha kanoume upgrade 20apo afta.

[Draminos_Gr]

Originally Posted by Angelo
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H Hellas tha pari kainourgies fregates kai maxitika aeroskafi protou 2009

H ellas tha pari 2 S-400 {Long range} upgrade S-300 to S-400 kai buk m1-2 {medium range} kai pantsir low range apo Russia pote den eimai sigouros.H tourkoi den exoune
aeramina,oti exoune einai apo to 1960 oute poulia ten poroune na piksoune
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Gia ta Leopard 2A6Hell i Hellas siga siga agorasi apo Germania pola Leopard 2A4 poli ftina,

tha ta kanei upgrade to Leopard 2A6hell, apo ti lenai meta 2013.exoume mazepsi 222

Leopard 2A4 kai agorazoume ala.H tourkia kimate then exi tanks ta 170 sabra pou tous kani upgrade i israelini exoune pola problimata i tourki tous ta stilane piso
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Kai ta leopard 2a4 pou tous poulisane i Germani exoune {engine problems}
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Ola afta pou leo enai alithia ta lene i tourki sta military forums.

Ta T-129 tha agorasoune 51 prota +{40 option maybe} einai {light atack helicopters] einai gia ta skoupithia,mono kala na kinigane kourdous.To programma auto exei {delays} einai sta thikastiria.Gia topa ftanoune ta 32 apaches pou exoume ala tha kanoume upgrade 20apo afta.

Endaksi ta T-129 den ftanoune ta Apachee ala k auta mporoune na xrisimopiisoune ta hellfire 2 k akousa oti exoune kalo radar.

[Angelo]

Then eimai sigouros gia to radar to T-129,ala molis tora thiabasa oti i tourki paragilane 10 Apache apo tin Ameriki, i ellas tha prepi ta paragili ala {attack helicopters} kai na kani upgrade ta tor-m1 to tor-m2 kai na agorasi buk-m3 airdefences kai panstir

[Draminos_Gr]

Originally Posted by Angelo
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Then eimai sigouros gia to radar to T-129,ala molis tora thiabasa oti i tourki paragilane 10 Apache apo tin Ameriki, i ellas tha prepi ta paragili ala {attack helicopters} kai na kani upgrade ta tor-m1 to tor-m2 kai na agorasi buk-m3 airdefences kai panstir

Pou to diabases auto? Merikes fores grafoune kati teties blakies se ala forum k den prepi na ta dinis simasia

[Angelo]

Originally Posted by Draminos_Gr
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Pou to diabases auto? Merikes fores grafoune kati teties blakies se ala forum k den prepi na ta dinis simasia

To diabasa se Greek -turkish military forum exoune source ala einai se Tourkika,to t-129 exei {poli delay} pori kai na gini cancelled

[Draminos_Gr]

Originally Posted by Angelo
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To diabasa se Greek -turkish military forum exoune source ala einai se Tourkika,to t-129 exei {poli delay} pori kai na gini cancelled

Mpa pantos ego den pisteuo na to paroune epidi tosa xronia lene i tourki tha paroume afto k afto to elekoptoro k meta tipota den pernoune.