Antikythera Mechanism

[Angelo]

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[Angelo]

In my opinion Greece should have not displayed this Antikythera Mechanism to the world and keept it a secret That do you guys think?

[half greek]

Originally Posted by Angelo
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In my opinion Greece should have not displayed this Antikythera Mechanism to the world and keept it a secret That do you guys think?

Why keep such a great thing a secret? It should be used to show how great the Greek mind is!
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[Hellenika]

I think the barbarians were trying to take credit for this. When it was found they couldn't believe it was an ancient thing, they were thinking it was something from medieval times. One day they will wake up and realize that the Greco/Roman world had already done it all. That some was preserved, other stuff lost or destroyed. Like the library in Alexandria. We'll never know. I came across something about ball bearings, Swedes and English I have seen call themselves the inventors of ball bearings, problem with this is, that ball bearings were found on Calligulas Nemi ships from 40AD. And speaking of the ships themselves, this is very interesting and typical of these anglo scholars who think they are superior.

"The main interest in the Lake Nemi ships is that they prove that the Romans were capable of building huge ships, as the grain carriers were reputed to be. Before the excavation of these barges, scholars had often ridiculed the idea that the Romans had that degree of sophistication needed to build a truly large ship"

Pretty much the same mentality about the Antikythera machine.

[Prokomenos]

Originally Posted by Hellenika
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I think the barbarians were trying to take credit for this. When it was found they couldn't believe it was an ancient thing, they were thinking it was something from medieval times. One day they will wake up and realize that the Greco/Roman world had already done it all. That some was preserved, other stuff lost or destroyed. Like the library in Alexandria. We'll never know. I came across something about ball bearings, Swedes and English I have seen call themselves the inventors of ball bearings, problem with this is, that ball bearings were found on Calligulas Nemi ships from 40AD. And speaking of the ships themselves, this is very interesting and typical of these anglo scholars who think they are superior.

"The main interest in the Lake Nemi ships is that they prove that the Romans were capable of building huge ships, as the grain carriers were reputed to be. Before the excavation of these barges, scholars had often ridiculed the idea that the Romans had that degree of sophistication needed to build a truly large ship"

Pretty much the same mentality about the Antikythera machine.

The barbarians lol!

Maybe they should of kept it a secret but then again like half Greek said why do so. Just more proof to show that our ancestors where geniuses.

[Angelo]

The rest of the world doesnt need to no what are forefathers new back in those days

Does country like the U.S france russia britain etc.. share all their tech with the world

We should have kept it a secret
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The ongoing research project into the Antikythera Mechanism is being led by Mike Edmunds, professor of astrophysics, and his colleagues at Cardiff University in Britain
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[Angelo]

2,100-year-old gadget tracked Olympics
By DEREK GATOPOULOS – 12 hours ago

ATHENS, Greece (AP) — An astronomical calculator, considered a technological marvel of antiquity, was also used to track dates of the ancient Olympic games, researchers have found.

Experts from Britain, Greece and the United States said they have detected the word "Olympia" on a bronze dial, as well as the names of other games in ancient Greece on the device known as the Antikythera Mechanism.

Their findings will be reported Thursday in the British science journal Nature.

The 2,100-year-old Antikythera Mechanism was recovered from an ancient shipwreck in 1901 near Antikythera, a small island off Greece's south coast.

Its insides look like a clock. About 30 bronze gears were cranked to calculate phases of the moon, eclipses and other celestial information specific to a certain date. Results were displayed on dials on the front and back of the mechanism.

Most workings of the device only came to light with recent advances in scanning technology and computer processing power.

In 2005, an X-ray tomography machine was brought from Britain to the National Archaeological museum of Athens, which houses the device's corroded and sediment-encrusted remains. Researchers soon found the gear structure — including the number of teeth cut into the wheels — corresponded to known theories of celestial cycles.

"It's like a medical scanner, but instead of putting people in it, we put the Antikythera Mechanism," Yanis Bitsakis, a co-author of the Nature report, told The Associated Press of the technology used to study the device.

Bitsakis, of Athens University's Center for History and Paleography, said finding the Olympian dial on the device was a surprise. Greece's ancient games had important religious significance and were commonly used dates for historical reference.

"We were astonished because this is not an astronomic cycle but an Olympian cycle, one of social events ... One does not need a piece of high technology to keep track of a simple four-year cycle," he said. "It is perhaps not extravagant to see the mechanism as a microcosm illustrating the temporal harmonization of human and divine order."

In a second new find, also reported in Nature on Thursday, Bitsakis and fellow researchers found that month names etched onto the Antikythera Mechanism were consistent with ones used in Corinthian colonies in Sicily. This provides the first possible link with the Greek mathematician Archimedes, who died there about 100 years before the device was built, Bitsakis said.

"This is an interesting — not direct link but possible link — with the town where Archimedes used to work. It is the first link of this kind," he said.

With the powerful 3-D scanner, built by the British-based X-Tek Systems, scientists can peer into razor-thin sections of the device's 80-odd surviving fragments to understand its mechanics and read hundreds of tiny Greek inscriptions etched onto its bronze components.

Information was also gleaned from a technique developed by U.S.-based Hewlett-Packard Co. which made composite images of high-resolution digital photographs taken of the mechanism fragments under varied lighting conditions.

Bitsakis said improved computing power, used to analyze existing scans and images, made the latest discovery possible.

"The inscriptions are in very faint layers, like one-tenth of a millimeter in depth, and the letters are 1 millimeter high, so it's almost nothing," he said.

"(We had better) memory processing power and more powerful graphic cards ... Without this we couldn't see the inscription because you have to increase the resolution and the result is a very big file," he said.

The ongoing research project into the Antikythera Mechanism is being led by Mike Edmunds, professor of astrophysics, and his colleagues at Cardiff University in Britain.


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[Angelo]

Greek calculator 'first computer'
9 hours ago

A 2,100-year-old mechanical calculator which was designed by the Greeks to carry out complex mathematical sums was also used to record the dates of the Olympic Games, researchers have revealed.

The Antikythera Mechanism, which was discovered in 1900 after spending two millennia under the Mediterranean Sea, has been dubbed the world's first computer and has been subject to intense scrutiny by scientists and archaeologists.

Now they have discovered the mechanism also recorded the dates of the ancient Greek games.


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[phoenix]

yeah, it was in the herald sun in today's paper saying on how astonished they were on the sophistication of the Olympiad cycle of the mechanism.... So they should be astonished , after all it was MADE IN HELLAS B.C. when they where running around with horns in their hair painting them self's blue discovering meet whilst we had cholesterol...