Yippee!! Third worlding of America in full swing and being confirmed

[Hellenika]

The white liberal elitists must be so proud and giddy right now. They'll see though when it's too late.



Report: Whites Now Minority in 1 in 10 U.S. Counties

WASHINGTON — Whites are now in the minority in nearly one in 10 U.S. counties. And that increased diversity, fueled by immigration and higher birth rates among blacks and Hispanics, is straining race relations and sparking a backlash against immigrants in many communities.

"There's some culture shock," said Mark Mather of the Population Reference Bureau, a Washington-based research agency. "But I think there is a momentum building, and it is going to continue."

As of 2006, non-Hispanic whites made up less than half the population in 303 of the nation's 3,141 counties, according to figures the Census Bureau is releasing Thursday. Non-Hispanic whites were a minority in 262 counties in 2000, up from 183 in 1990.

The Census Bureau's report has population estimates by race and ethnicity for every county in the nation. They are the first such estimates since Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast in 2005, scattering hundreds of thousands of people.

The biggest changes in were in Orleans Parish, La., home to New Orleans. The share of non-Hispanic whites in Orleans Parish grew from 27 percent in 2005 to 34 percent in 2006, while the share of blacks dropped from about 68 percent to 59 percent.

Many of the nation's biggest counties have long had large minority populations. But that diversity is now spreading to the suburbs and beyond, causing resentment in some areas.

Many Latinos say they see it in the debate over illegal immigration.

In northern Virginia, Teresita Jacinto said she feels less welcome today than when she first arrived 30 years ago, when she was one of few Hispanics in the area.

"Not only are we feeling less welcome, we are feeling threatened," said Jacinto, a teacher in Woodbridge, Va., about 20 miles southwest of Washington.

Woodbridge is part of Prince William County, which recently passed a resolution seeking to deny public services to illegal immigrants. Similar measures have been approved or considered in dozens of communities across the nation. In all, state lawmakers have introduced more than 1,400 measures related to immigration this year, the National Conference of State Legislatures says.

Supporters say local laws are necessary because Congress has failed to crack down on the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. But many Hispanics legally in the U.S. say they feel targeted, too.

"I think across the board all of us feel like we're not welcome," said Jacinto, who was born in the U.S. and volunteers for an advocacy group called Mexicans Without Borders.

Prince William County has seen its Hispanic population more than double since 2000, to nearly 70,000 last year. Non-Hispanic whites account for a little more than half the population, down from about two-thirds in 2000.

Greg Letiecq recently helped form a group to fight illegal immigration in northern Virginia, called Help Save Manassas. The group is named for a city surrounded by Prince William County.

"It's not about ethnicity, it's not about race. It's about lawful behavior versus unlawful behavior," Letiecq said.

Still, he complained that many newcomers eschew American culture in favor of their Latino heritage.

"It's the folks who come in and try to maintain the culture of the country they came from," Letiecq said. "They don't seem to embrace the American culture, the English language, the social norms of American culture."

Nationally, the number of minorities topped 100 million for the first time in 2006 — about a third of the population. By 2050, minorities will account for half of U.S. residents, according to Census Bureau projections.

"I don't think Latinos or any other so-called minority group are seeking to make white people a minority," Jacinto said. "It's just a reality."

[Ellinas]

I am not sure how "white" is defined in the USA - if it means only the Nordics, it includes all the Caucasoids or whatever - but I don't have any serious concern about them becoming a minority in the USA. After North America was violently abstracted from its native inhabitants, the country USA was build by immigrants from all over the world. So I would not say it belongs to anyone specifically, Anglo-saxons, Hispanics, whites, blacks, yellows or whatever.

What I am concerned about, regarding the whole globalism and multi-culturalism thing, is the denaturation of nations (ΕΘΝΗ). Nations like Greece, which built their history as a nation, not as a multinational communitiy/state like USA. If nations denaturate, the consequences will be many: their culture will be lost, their traditions will be lost - a big list of them can be made.

[Hellenika]

Originally Posted by Ellinas
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I am not sure how "white" is defined in the USA - if it means only the Nordics, it includes all the Caucasoids or whatever - but I don't have any serious concern about them becoming a minority in the USA. After North America was violently abstracted from its native inhabitants, the country USA was build by immigrants from all over the world. So I would not say it belongs to anyone specifically, Anglo-saxons, Hispanics, whites, blacks, yellows or whatever.

What I am concerned about, regarding the whole globalism and multi-culturalism thing, is the denaturation of nations (ΕΘΝΗ). Nations like Greece, which built their history as a nation, not as a multinational communitiy/state like USA. If nations denaturate, the consequences will be many: their culture will be lost, their traditions will be lost - a big list of them can be made.

"White" was originally supposed to define those of European origin. But it seems that there are some non-European hispanics who chose white as their ethnicity as well as Arabs and other middle easterners.

The US was founded and made a great nation by Christian Europeans. No one else. Outside of that, the rest were either brought in or allowed in for cheap labor or slavery not much different than how other great nations were built.

Most non Europeans refuse to assimilate, unlike the Europeans who have always done so in order to survive. Most non-Europeans continue to live as if they are still back in their native 3rd world countries. They make no contributions for the betterment of this country. They only take. They are a burden. The US should be multi-cultural, but of the differing European cultures only.

I understand what you are saying about globalism and multi-culturalism in countries like Greece and I completely agree and I find the whole thing to be disgusting. It doesn't belong there. Greece should be for one people, those who have fought, bled and died for it. Same goes for the other European countries they should be made up of and be for that respective race.

[Ellinas]

Originally Posted by Hellenika
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"White" was originally supposed to define those of European origin. But it seems that there are some non-European hispanics who chose white as their ethnicity as well as Arabs and other middle easterners.

The US was founded and made a great nation by Christian Europeans. No one else. Outside of that, the rest were either brought in or allowed in for cheap labor or slavery not much different than how other great nations were built.

Most non Europeans refuse to assimilate, unlike the Europeans who have always done so in order to survive. Most non-Europeans continue to live as if they are still back in their native 3rd world countries. They make no contributions for the betterment of this country. They only take. They are a burden. The US should be multi-cultural, but of the differing European cultures only.

I understand what you are saying about globalism and multi-culturalism in countries like Greece and I completely agree and I find the whole thing to be disgusting. It doesn't belong there. Greece should be for one people, those who have fought, bled and died for it. Same goes for the other European countries they should be made up of and be for that respective race.

Firstly, as I said I would not characterize USA as a nation. And if I' ve done it before it was a mistake in the expression. USA is a multinational country/state. USA was founded by Europeans from different nations - Europe is not a nation but a geographical term.

Personally I have many doubts if a country which built was based in a massive genocide, can ever become "great". USA managed to become a country with big military power and with many zones of influence in the world, a country where a considerable number of thechnological achievements became reality. But they are still far from being called a culture or a civilization, and this is how I understand a great nation/country.

But let's consider that I accept what you said, that "USA were founded and made a great nation by Christian Europeans". The ones who created and developed USA were English, Scottish, Spanish, French, Dutch and Swedish. So with your logic Greeks, Italians, Russians, Germans etc. have no place in the USA I guess?

I will repeat once more, Europe is a geographical term, not a nation. Europe is an area which consists by many different nations.

There is national and multinational. There isn't multinational but only "European" or whatever. I don't understand such a logic.

[Hellenika]

Originally Posted by Ellinas
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Firstly, as I said I would not characterize USA as a nation. And if I' ve done it before it was a mistake in the expression. USA is a multinational country/state. USA was founded by Europeans from different nations - Europe is not a nation but a geographical term.

Personally I have many doubts if a country which built was based in a massive genocide, can ever become "great". USA managed to become a country with big military power and with many zones of influence in the world, a country where a considerable number of thechnological achievements became reality. But they are still far from being called a culture or a civilization, and this is how I understand a great nation/country.

But let's consider that I accept what you said, that "USA were founded and made a great nation by Christian Europeans". The ones who created and developed USA were English, Scottish, Spanish, French, Dutch and Swedish. So with your logic Greeks, Italians, Russians, Germans etc. have no place in the USA I guess?

I will repeat once more, Europe is a geographical term, not a nation. Europe is an area which consists by many different nations.

There is national and multinational. There isn't multinational but only "European" or whatever. I don't understand such a logic.

Massive genocide? Please, anyone is free to fight to keep what they have. If they lose, that's too bad that's how it is. Who did the "natives" kill to take it from? Anyone who is willing to contribute and assimilate and that the taxpayer does not have to support, I don't have problems with.

I didn't think I called Europe a nation. Europe is a continent. Technically speaking the US is not a nation. But it is great in the sense that it is very powerful and is influencing just about everything in the world. Not that I agree with it necessarily. But it is what it is.

[Megale]

Originally Posted by Ellinas
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Firstly, as I said I would not characterize USA as a nation. And if I' ve done it before it was a mistake in the expression. USA is a multinational country/state. USA was founded by Europeans from different nations - Europe is not a nation but a geographical term.

Personally I have many doubts if a country which built was based in a massive genocide, can ever become "great". USA managed to become a country with big military power and with many zones of influence in the world, a country where a considerable number of thechnological achievements became reality. But they are still far from being called a culture or a civilization, and this is how I understand a great nation/country.

But let's consider that I accept what you said, that "USA were founded and made a great nation by Christian Europeans". The ones who created and developed USA were English, Scottish, Spanish, French, Dutch and Swedish. So with your logic Greeks, Italians, Russians, Germans etc. have no place in the USA I guess?

I will repeat once more, Europe is a geographical term, not a nation. Europe is an area which consists by many different nations.

There is national and multinational. There isn't multinational but only "European" or whatever. I don't understand such a logic.

The government gave the Native Indians a raw deal and there were massacres by both sides. The Indians were very hostile towards the Pioneers when they headed out West. The biggest cause of death with the Native Indians, just like the Indians in the Carribean was acutally disease. They had no immunity from "white man diseases."

Yes the United States did start with all those ethnic groups mentioned and yes Greeks, Italians, Germans, etc, came a little later and yes contributed to the country. I also think that the US mbecame an economic power even before WW2. All the immigrants from Europe flocked to work in the factories and other manufacturing industries. Until recently I've looked at the US as being European decendent with its own identity. It has its own unique culture that is rooted in European but since the distance is great it became something of its own entirely. Of course not its not like the other countries of Europe because after all its a very young country.

[really]

Why would you be concerned about "denaturation" of nations, Ellinas?

When I look at the EU, it seems that the nations that compose it are pretty distinctive and retain their identities. Although European, the people are first of all Greek, French, Spanish etc. The cultures are way too different to even say that there is a European culture.

I understand there is a tendency towards some Americanization (e.g. music, movies, clothes, etc.) but is it sufficient to take the whole Greek etc. culture away?

[Apollyon]

A very interesting conversation.Well done lads.
The only thing that i would like to add is something about the term ΕΘΝΟΣ= ETHNOS (NATION).
On tv i have heard multitimes that this term is almost modern one.Offcourse such thing only the pseudoculturists tell and they dont even admit that Platon determined Ethnos(nation).
But I found before few days an older refferance to Ethnos than Platon's.
I was reading Isiodos-Theogonia and he uses the word PolyEthnaia-MultiNations.

Now,as for the white guys in USA,
The leading caste in that country is known and they dont care if USA is white,black or yellow. They care only to globalize that problem of mixing cultures and people.

[Prokomenos]

Now,as for the white guys in USA,
The leading caste in that country is known and they dont care if USA is white,black or yellow. They care only to globalize that problem of mixing cultures and people.

You are absolutely correct...

[Megale]

Originally Posted by Apollyon
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A very interesting conversation.Well done lads.
The only thing that i would like to add is something about the term ΕΘΝΟΣ= ETHNOS (NATION).
On tv i have heard multitimes that this term is almost modern one.Offcourse such thing only the pseudoculturists tell and they dont even admit that Platon determined Ethnos(nation).
But I found before few days an older refferance to Ethnos than Platon's.
I was reading Isiodos-Theogonia and he uses the word PolyEthnaia-MultiNations.

Now,as for the white guys in USA,
The leading caste in that country is known and they dont care if USA is white,black or yellow. They care only to globalize that problem of mixing cultures and people.

Very true and right about the white elite, both the liberal and conservative factions. But the white majority, many don't really want the country globalized even more. However with political correctness, many are silent on this.