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Old 12-13-2007, 01:09 AM   #1
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Magna Graecia



Griko, sometimes spelled Grico, is a language combining ancient Greek, Byzantine Greek and Italian elements. Griko is spoken by people in the Magna Graecia region in southern Italy and Sicily, and it is otherwise known as the Grecanic language. Greeks often call the language Katoitaliótika (Greek: Κατωιταλιώτικα, "Southern Italian") and sometimes Calabrian, although the latter may also serve as an euphemism for a Greek-Italian pidgin language.
Two small Griko-speaking communities survive today in Calabria and Salento. The Griko-speaking area of Salento comprises nine small towns in the Grecìa Salentina region (Calimera, Martano, Castrignano de\' Greci, Corigliano d\'Otranto, Melpignano, Soleto, Sternatia, Zollino, Martignano), with a total of 40,000 inhabitants. The Calabrian Griko region also consists of nine villages in Bovesia, but its population is significantly smaller.
There are two main theories regarding Griko's origin:

* Morosi's theory (1870), claiming that Griko stems from the language of Byzantine settlers in the 9th century CE.
* The theory by Gerhard Rohlfs and G. Hatzidakis, claiming that Griko's roots go further back in history, to the time of the ancient Greek colonisation of Magna Graecia, in the 8th century BCE.

The latter is backed by evidence regarding the multitude of Doric words and other ancient Greek items of vocabulary in Griko.
Griko and modern Greek are mutually intelligible to some extent.
There is rich oral tradition and Griko folklore. Griko songs, music and poetry are particularly popular in Italy and Greece. Famous music groups from Salento include Ghetonia and Aramirè. Also, influential Greek artists such as Dionysis Savvopoulos and Maria Farantouri have performed in Griko.
The Italian parliament has recognized the Griko community of Salento as an ethnic and linguistic minority, under the name of "Minoranze linguistiche Grike dell'Etnia Griko-Salentina" (linguistic minority of the Griko-Salentinian ethnicity).



Sample Griko text

from Kalinifta, a popular Griko song:
Griko

Εβώ πάντα σε σένα πενσέω,
γιατί σένα φσυχή μου 'γαπώ,
τσαι που πάω, που σύρνω, που στέω
στην καρδιά μου πάντα σένα βαστώ.


Modern Greek

Εγώ πάντα εσένα σκέφτομαι,
γιατί εσένα ψυχή μου αγαπώ,
και όπου πάω, όπου σέρνομαι, όπου στέκομαι,
στην καρδιά μου πάντα εσένα βαστώ.
English

I always think of you,
because I love you, my soul,
and wherever I go, wherever I drag myself into, wherever I stay,
I always hold you inside my heart.


External links

* Grika milume! ( Grika milume! Home page ) An online Griko community
* Enosi Griko ( index ), Coordination of Grecìa Salentina Associations
* Grecìa Salentina ( Sito Ufficiale della Grecia Salentina ) official site (in Italian)
* Salento Griko ( salentogriko.info:scopri la grecμa salentina! )





Credit for this info goes to Julian
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:18 PM   #2
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Re: Magna Graecia

Andra mou paei/Greek- Italian dialect-

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National anthem of the griko people

Let God save you dear homeland
that streched out in this ancient sea of
cradle of thought
that,born in Greece in this land
flourished anew.Erased from History.
We are once again flying your flags.
On the sacred towers of Gaeta
we write again the word Dignity
Soldiers of the Volturno
you that fell here,none for hundred years
has engreaved your name.
The children you never knew
will return honor to you.
Back from the past,those who believe in us
this time we will win

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Excellent topic.

LINK: Wikipedia page on the Griko language

Map of Griko speaking areas of Southern Italy.
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This is a blog site I found of one of the towns in the Magna Graecia
NOCTOC: GALLICIANO-ΓΚΑΛΙΤΣΑΝΟ: Η ΑΚΡΟΠΟΛΗ ΤΩΝ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ ΤΗΣ ΚΑΛΑΒΡΙΑΣ
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Re: Magna Graecia

To me what's different about places like Magna Gracia or Marseilles France for that matter is that the people there don't cover up and twist the history that the former/current residents were Greek. This is the opposite of what skops, albos, turks do where they lie and state 'they' are the descendants of the Greek tribe namesake that use to live in those regions to make themselves seem like the indigenous folk.
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Interesting, especially the bit about the village Pentedattilo which has the same name as the mountain Pentadaktylos range in Cyprus.
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